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Poll How positive are you about Discovery now?

What is your view on Discovery?

  • Very positive

    Votes: 81 24.1%
  • Positive

    Votes: 90 26.8%
  • Somewhat positive but hesitant

    Votes: 56 16.7%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 24 7.1%
  • Somewhat negative but hopeful

    Votes: 33 9.8%
  • Negative

    Votes: 34 10.1%
  • Very negative

    Votes: 18 5.4%

  • Total voters
    336
But can you elaborate on that? as a non-stargate guy, i'm super curious.
Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis built themselves around being light fun shows with engaging characters and more often then not a not very complex storyline.

And that's what the majority of viewers liked about the series.

This is especially poignant now when we have a glut of dark character driven drama's on the air starving the people for SG1 and TNG type shows.
 
Except that there's no evidence that there are enough people "starving" for that to make it possible for CBS to turn a profit.
 
I didn't realize DS9 struggled that bad in the ratings, I had always thought it was pretty level with TNG, and that drop off didn't really start until the later seasons of Voyager.
I have to wonder how DS9 does on the streaming services today? .

Not real well.
 
These two posts basicly tell us everything we needed to know about the decline of viewers in Star Trek. People didn't like the boldy staying the f*** here aspect of DS9, and didn't watch. They prefered TNG. TNG ended, Voyager came along. Again, it wasn't TNG enough (which is ironic, since VOY basicly became TNG-Lite after a while) and people didn't like it. Enterprise came along and holy shit did hardcore fans blew some fuses!! Nothing looked like a TOS prequel should, how dare they!! So, people didn't watch.

After a while, in reruns or Netflix, or cheap dvds on Amazon. However, for ratings and studios, this does two things; Jack and Shit.

The new movies atleast showed there was still some interest in Star Trek, and CBS decided to give it another shot.


It's simpler than that.

There just aren't special rules for Trek.

Often a show is popular just because of the cast. Attempts to spin off from a series often fail just because of this. Sometimes they succeed...more often, not.
 
Except that there's no evidence that there are enough people "starving" for that to make it possible for CBS to turn a profit.
You mean no evidence other then the Orville trailer which compared to Discovery's 1.9 million views while sitting at 11,200 likes and 6,200 dislikes has 2.9 million views and is sitting at 22,250 likes and 3,750 dislikes? :D
 
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I don't like to feel stupid when other people cut my complaining to shreds because I have no idea of what I'm talking about. Pride is going to cost me at least $5.99 a month. :lol:

I applaud your sacrifice of your wallet so that you can make informed arguments about Star Trek Discovery, even if you dislike it. :)
 
Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis built themselves around being light fun shows with engaging characters and more often then not a not very complex storyline.

And that's what the majority of viewers liked about the series.

Yes, they didn't take themselves so serious. There were for sure some darker episodes, but overall the series were just fun with a lot of humour. The characters were clear heroes. It wasn't just tons of grey characters. They were really likeable and were fighting the bad guys. They were really good friends and didn't fight among each other.

The series were clearly more plot driven. There were episodes which could stand alone, but also larger season long arcs. Overall I think it was a nice mix. And they visited different planets all the time and met different people.

I like SG1 and Atlantis more than TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT, because they were really entertaining. So it was a huge disappointment for me, when they discarded everything which made SG1 and Atlantis great and made the complete opposite with SGU.
 
Except that there's no evidence that there are enough people "starving" for that to make it possible for CBS to turn a profit.

yeah, enough for netflix to actively try to engage with paramount and CBS to get a new show on their service.

probably not enough for people to pay for an all new streaming service though.
This is especially poignant now when we have a glut of dark character driven drama's on the air starving the people for SG1 and TNG type shows.
i watched stargate universe at the height of my battlestar galactica phase.

i much prefer the comfort of TNG in my old age.
 
You mean no evidence other then the Orville trailer which compared to Discovery's 1.9 million views while sitting at 11,200 likes and 6,200 dislikes has 2.9 million views and is sitting at 22,250 likes and 3,750 dislikes? :D
You want Star Trek to be a sitcom? :vulcan:

I mean, sure, Orville might be funny, or it might bomb. I'm not sure why people think it will be good just because it looks like the nineties Star Trek it is deliberately mocking.

It's funny, I don't remember Trekkies ever being excited for a new show. They were all never going to be as good as what we already had. How could a bald English guy replace Kirk?
 
google says it is classified as a Comedy-Drama.

From what I've seen from trailers, (and the various definitions I've read) I wouldn't classify it as a Sitcom.
 
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So it sounds like we're getting a serialised war show In space that's more about character drama than plot. If I'm honest, if this weren't under the Trek banner, I think I'd have no interest in it.
 
You mean no evidence other then the Orville trailer which compared to Discovery's 1.9 million views while sitting at 11,200 likes and 6,200 dislikes has 2.9 million views and is sitting at 22,250 likes and 3,750 dislikes? :D
When you say "evidence other than" you apparently mean to suggest that listed YouTube views are evidence of some sort relevant to the size of audience the two shows might be expected to hold on TV.

That's kind of adorable.

We'll revisit this when Fox pulls the plug on The Orville. ;)
 
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