How Hot Are Vulcan, Tatooine, and Dune?
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I don't know dry heat, but I spent several years in the Amazonas and then near the equator in Africa. The smell of the jungle is rotting vegetation--which you grow accustomed to as you do the smell of manure if you live on a ranch.
That is high humidity heat where you get used to soaking your clothes with sweat within minutes of stepping outside. I jogged 5 to 10 kilometers regularly in that heat but since we're talking about Dune, I then drank a lot of water. A lot. I heard stories from guys who worked in the Middle East who told me that they would drink water all day while at the job site and their urine would still be a dark brown at the end of the day.
I am more curious about the temperature changes on these planets based on geographical region. I wonder if Dune takes place near the polar region and the equator is just unlivable. Maps of Tatooine seem to imply that people live all over the planet, so it may be hot but not overly so compared to Earth deserts.
That is high humidity heat where you get used to soaking your clothes with sweat within minutes of stepping outside. I jogged 5 to 10 kilometers regularly in that heat but since we're talking about Dune, I then drank a lot of water. A lot. I heard stories from guys who worked in the Middle East who told me that they would drink water all day while at the job site and their urine would still be a dark brown at the end of the day.
I am more curious about the temperature changes on these planets based on geographical region. I wonder if Dune takes place near the polar region and the equator is just unlivable. Maps of Tatooine seem to imply that people live all over the planet, so it may be hot but not overly so compared to Earth deserts.
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it's actually the other way round - the polar regions of Arrakis are uninhabitable (mentioned several times in the first book) but not sure if they're also desert or a frozen waste.
Welp, quick look at google, The Sahara is about the same as California, Arizona, Middle East, So if the planets have a kind of similar orbital path, conditions, then were looking at over 40 during the day, close to 50 on a hot day.
now, what we need to know is, do these planets have moons? Do they have a tilt like Earth, or are they straight on, and have no seasons?
So, along the Equator, and up to say new york lattitude.. or is that longitude?.. that it would be HOT, but north , or south if your going south.. the temp would start to drop, where at the pole would be cool. How cool? no idea, theres no seas to regulate the temperatures, so probably cool, under 20. but doubt any ice. Vulcan may have Ice, Dune and Tatooine probably no ice.
now, what we need to know is, do these planets have moons? Do they have a tilt like Earth, or are they straight on, and have no seasons?
So, along the Equator, and up to say new york lattitude.. or is that longitude?.. that it would be HOT, but north , or south if your going south.. the temp would start to drop, where at the pole would be cool. How cool? no idea, theres no seas to regulate the temperatures, so probably cool, under 20. but doubt any ice. Vulcan may have Ice, Dune and Tatooine probably no ice.
Thank. In my defense it has been about thirty years since I read the series.
Arizona shout out here. Phoenix native, even.
Good thread. I've always just sort of assumed that Tatooine and Arrakis had a similar climate to Phoenix in July.
Good thread. I've always just sort of assumed that Tatooine and Arrakis had a similar climate to Phoenix in July.
though I stand corrected
Looking at the Dune wiki, it indicates that much of the settlement in in the northern polar region of the planet so possibly anything south (right down to the south pole) is uninhabitable.
The reason the north polar was settled was it's bedrock and the works couldn't get because of the shield wall kept them out (until Paul nuked it).
I'd have to same problem if I went somewhere cold. I start getting cold once you hit 50F/15C, and at 40F/5C I freezing my ass off.
Yeah, if you're not used to it, you need to be very carefully if you go outside in the summer. As a general rule, you do anything you need to do outside as early in the morning as possible, and then hide inside once you start reaching the afternoon. The hottest part of the day tends to be around 4 in the afternoon, so once you get past things will start to cool down.
We tend to get up at 5 in the morning, just so we have enough time to walk the dogs before it gets to hot out.
I like all parts of Arizona that aren't the big cities.
If you ever drive from the southern part of the state to the northern part, dress for 40 degree temperature shifts.
If you ever drive from the southern part of the state to the northern part, dress for 40 degree temperature shifts.
It is all what your body adjusts to. We moved north three years ago. The first winter was tough, but this year our third I am a Canadian wearing shirt sleeves at five degrees.
^ Everytime I see this thread I hear a Johnny Carson crowd: "HOW HOT ARE THEY?!?!?".
"They're so hot, Nelly has taken off all his clothes and is still uncomfortable." "Hey-O!"
"They're so hot, Nelly has taken off all his clothes and is still uncomfortable." "Hey-O!"
Ceti Alpha V might have them beat..plus acid seas per the novel. And then...there’s Crematoria...
In real life, you might have to live on a strip of a world that is tidally locked...in captured rotation around a flare star.
You might have the opposite if a gas giant partially occult’s a nearby star if a moon can stay in a liberation point on the other side...if the three body deal allows it.
Then you have a ring of fire instead of a lukewarm terminator (not the android).
Little to add to Reverend's analysis but the now live-action-canon idea that Tatooine only has three settlements of note, and at least one of 'em is but a mining village and presumably never was all that much more than that. The Wars universe is full of desert planets of all sorts (Sloppy terraforming? Decent terraforming, but the Empire neglects maintenance and prairies like Lothal quickly turn to deserts like Tatooine? Wars, if not with blasters, then with ecological means, and high Republic bushido be damned?), and full of life, and yet Tatooine is basically empty.
And uniformly empty: we've seen all the Moses, and they all sit in the middle of the same sort of sand and rock, rather than at the rare paradise valleys or whatnot. Possibly all of them were mining settlements originally, founded on top of resources? If they were founded on top of the only three places where the planet has groundwater, then it really is a hellhole perhaps worse than Arrakis. (Although of course the geology we see is what Earth has as the result of water erosion, suggesting either a moist past or then alien forces of nature.)
Vulcan isn't uniform. Plus it has weather, and seasons, even if those sometimes are uniform and result in a quite literally global chance of color for the planet. But when its hot, it may be the hottest, and where it's hostile, it may be the most hostile: if you don't schedule your visit right, you may end up getting the heat, the volcanism, and the electromagnetic storms all. Plus the nasty fauna, which is diverse in its hostility, unlike on Arrakis, even if there's nothing in the sheer scale of dragons or worms so far.
As for the other factors, could be all those stars are particularly skin-friendly, or the atmospheres and magnetospheres are heftier than average, naturally or artificially. Tatoonie's twins are particularly eye-friendly at least, outright prompting people to stare right at them for sixteen bars and a crescendo...
Timo Saloniemi
And uniformly empty: we've seen all the Moses, and they all sit in the middle of the same sort of sand and rock, rather than at the rare paradise valleys or whatnot. Possibly all of them were mining settlements originally, founded on top of resources? If they were founded on top of the only three places where the planet has groundwater, then it really is a hellhole perhaps worse than Arrakis. (Although of course the geology we see is what Earth has as the result of water erosion, suggesting either a moist past or then alien forces of nature.)
Vulcan isn't uniform. Plus it has weather, and seasons, even if those sometimes are uniform and result in a quite literally global chance of color for the planet. But when its hot, it may be the hottest, and where it's hostile, it may be the most hostile: if you don't schedule your visit right, you may end up getting the heat, the volcanism, and the electromagnetic storms all. Plus the nasty fauna, which is diverse in its hostility, unlike on Arrakis, even if there's nothing in the sheer scale of dragons or worms so far.
As for the other factors, could be all those stars are particularly skin-friendly, or the atmospheres and magnetospheres are heftier than average, naturally or artificially. Tatoonie's twins are particularly eye-friendly at least, outright prompting people to stare right at them for sixteen bars and a crescendo...
Timo Saloniemi
The Empire certainly made a shocking number of desert planets through strip-mining and ecological negligence, but Tatooine isn't one of them. It may have been temperate and water rich once, but that was thousands of years ago at the very least. The galaxy has been "settled" for tens, if not hundreds of thousands of years. Stick on any hospitable planet that long and short of a massive technological intervention, there's bound to be some climate shift or another.
Also remember that Tatooine is essentially the arse end of nowhere. If it was a place on Earth it'd be some backroads truck stop about 20 miles outside of Tegucigalpa, and Owen is the guy that sells the shithole homemade motel bottled water because indoor plumbing is still a thing that just happens to other people. People who actually live there (as opposed to just passing through, or part of the criminal ecosystem) are either stuck there or are just biding their time until they can go elsewhere.
you'd have to wonder what would induce some-one to settle on Tatooine in the first place.
Don't recall any canon mention of anything that really made the place enticing as settelment so maybe it was simply it's location as the arse end of the galaxy out of the eye of the Old Republic and galatic empire.
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