How Canon is Endgame?

[Lindley]

The novels - while uncanon - make Admiral Janeways actions even worse: because of her selfish, egoistical, stubborn behavior, billions of Federation citizens are killed by the Borg. A very high price to pay just to get one single ship back.

While I haven't read it just yet, I believe another novel establishes that in every timeline where the Borg are not stopped via something similar to the events of Destiny, they overwhelm the galaxy in under a century.

From that viewpoint, as unfortunate as the Borg invasion was, it was ultimately necessary to allow that to play out.

 

[tighr]

come on, from Captain to Vice Admiral? That would be going from Cadet to Capt...shut up JJ

If you hadn't said it, I certainly would have.

 

[JB2005]

come on, from Captain to Vice Admiral? That would be going from Cadet to Capt...shut up JJ

If you hadn't said it, I certainly would have.

Haha I know! I've been at this board long enough I could post all the objections to my arguments if I was so inclined =p

 

[Guy Gardener]

But that would be crazy?

 

[RoJoHen]

It also wasn't helping things that they established that Starfleet did that stuff, but then didn't bother to do anything about Future Janeway's selfish nonsense. Hell, present day Starfleet should have been shitting it's pants to think that Janeway could be capable of pulling something like that in the future, just because she felt like it.

Maybe 29th Century Starfleet was just so tired of cleaning up Janeway's messes that they decided that they were just better off letting Admiral Janeway succeed in bringing Voyager home early. The sooner they do that, the sooner she gets promoted and gets her ass out of the captain's chair.

Obvious answer: Braxton and the other time cops are from the post-"Endgame" future. If they undid it, they'd erase their own past.

Hmm, indeed.

So really, temporal incursions are only a problem if they affect the status quo of Braxton's 29th Century. If so, you can pretty much use that excuse to explain away all time travel. It happened because Braxton and the 29th Century Starfleet allowed it to happen.

 

[Destructor]

Maybe the reason there isn't any time travel is because it just hasn't happened yet?

 

[Guy Gardener]

You're discounting that women on a cell phone in that Chaplin Movie?

 

[spot_loves_data]

And John Titor.

 

[JarodRussell]

Maybe the reason there isn't any time travel is because it just hasn't happened yet?

The reason why we haven't been visited by time travelers is that the world ends on December 21st 2012. Simple as that.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Imagine all the people waiting till the 22nd before buying their Christmas presents, y'know, for just in case.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Imagine all the nutty believers taking out crazy loans they have no plans nor hope of ever paying back in the months prior to December 2012!

 

[JarodRussell]

Imagine all the nutty believers taking out crazy loans they have no plans nor hope of ever paying back in the months prior to December 2012!

Didn't that already happen in 2008?

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Imagine all the nutty believers taking out crazy loans they have no plans nor hope of ever paying back in the months prior to December 2012!

Didn't that already happen in 2008?

And 1999.

 

[CaptainMatt]

Relax, my friends. No one knows when the world is ending. All previous attempts to set a date have proven false.

 

[tighr]

Relax, my friends. No one knows when the world is ending. All previous attempts to set a date have proven false.

You only need to be right once.

 

[CaptainMatt]

And so far no one has. I doubt they will be this time. Only God knows when He will end this planet. Yes I went there. Or do you secretly wish the planet does come to an end before Trek 2 is out? Thats another matter entirely.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Imagine all the nutty believers taking out crazy loans they have no plans nor hope of ever paying back in the months prior to December 2012!

Didn't that already happen in 2008?

And 1999.

No, I'm pretty sure one of them was right on the money.

 

[Lord Manitou]

From the Sky will come the great King of Terror.
He will bring back to life the great King of the Mongols.
Before and after War reigns happily.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In the original puilps, Buck Rogers fought the Mogols in the 25th century.

Dude, that quatrain is about 1999, not 2012.

 

[Destructor]

And so far no one has. I doubt they will be this time. Only God knows when He will end this planet. Yes I went there. Or do you secretly wish the planet does come to an end before Trek 2 is out? Thats another matter entirely.

HOW pissed off will you be if the world ends just as the opening credits roll?