Hey, I never noticed that before....

Watching the Mark of Gideon and noticed that Spock disobeys the Admiral's orders and beams down to Gideon. There seem to have been no further repercussions for Spock.

 

By the way, documents around "The Doomday Machine" i.d. the Constellation out as an "Enterprise class ship". So the intent was it's the same ship class, AMT kit inaccuracies aside.

 

Of course I was being facetious, but fans are still free to go by the aired material only and see the Constellation as a variant type. TOS-R forecloses on that leeway later on, but again, fans pick their canon.

 

He seems to be passed over for promotion to Captain, again... Having no career path forward, he should probably leave Starfleet after this tour of duty.

 

Yeah, really!

I imagine Starfleet gave him some leeway because he was right and saved Kirk. Of course, Kirk wasn't a favorite of the admiralty either, so, hmmm . . . . As Sulu says (roughly; not checking the exact quote) "With the captain missing, that's the best they could come up with?"

 

When did Sulu say that?

Edit: I gotcha, it's from "The Mark of Gideon." What's the matter with me? I was afraid it might be JJ-Sulu or Streaming Sulu or...

 

Yeah, it's in the episode. It's a nice Spock-Sulu moment and some good dialogue (of which there is plenty in the oft-derided episode). After Sulu's well-taken remark, Spock makes clear that he sympathizes and then offers some sardonic commentary.

 

Hobbytalk’s Robert April showed the saucer to be right…but the secondary hull was a bit short. I have the print out—but it isn’t on the web…drat.

TAS
https://www.hobbytalk.com/threads/star-trek-tas-reference-website-back-online.387334/#post-4460081

 

"Arena"

The boulder Kirk drops on the Gorn (image & image) resets back to its starting position near the end of the episode as he hobbles uphill (image).

 

When your dad is an Ambassador and your family has the ear of T'Pau, you do what you want.

 

Good catch. The Metrons must have reloaded that "available weapon."

It was awful lucky the type of rock in question wasn't too dense for Kirk to roll uphill. If Kirk's boulder was sandstone, it would weigh a ton or more, and getting behind it to push like that would be reckless at best:
http://www.delawarequarries.com/landscape/boulders/boulderwt.html

In the future, exo-geologists will have to study the origins and properties of papier-mâché rock formations. We just don't know enough right now.

 

Ssosmcin said:

Model kits of that era weren't usually accurate. They were, at best, simplified.

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You've got that right. As I just mentioned elsewhere, next to the TOS Enterprise, I always thought the battlestar Galactica was the coolest looking ship, especially the front or forward section. So the people who made the model kit, Revell I Think, got that same forward section very much wrong and I always hated that.

Robert

 

I think it's pretty much a Star Trek staple for the Captain on the scene to disobey Starfleet regulations only to be forgiven later. Easier to ask forgiveness than to get permission?

 

I doubt Riker or Picard or Janeway ever disobeyed an Admiral's orders.

 

Some one hasn't seen Insurrection or The Pegasus...

 

The exceptions prove the point...

 

You did say "ever."

And Janeway didn't have an admiral to disobey.

 

Until the movies did Kirk only disobey orders in AmokTime? I know he delayed and took on passengers but I regarded these as pushing the boundaries.

 

"Saddle up!"

 

Kirk's rep as a maverick cowboy who did whatever the hell he wanted and damn the orders comes from the movies. And not even that many of them. The two times he truly went against orders was to save Spock. General Chang's statement of Kirk "violating the chain of command whenever it suited him" was courtroom bluster that was taken seriously by people.

Kirk was pretty by the book but the book did allow some leeway because the whole point was that Kirk was too far out to keep consulting with Starfleet (unless the plot required it). Even when he bucked the prime directive, he didn't do it on a whim and always justified or agonized over it.