Hey, I never noticed that before....

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Warped9, Aug 1, 2015.

  1. ZapBrannigan

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    I don't find "Obsession" to stand out in that regard. For some reason, I've always found "The Lights of Zetar" to have the most vivid and vibrant color palette. It must be a combination of rich lighting, a really good batch of Kodak film that week, and possibly new blue and red uniforms (meaning the fabric was freshly dyed and hadn't been to the cleaners much).

    So I find "Zetar" gorgeous with color saturation, plus it has lots of the Enterprise, no unconvincing "outdoor" set with fake rocks, a guest star I find attractive, and great re-use of music from WNMHGB. At that point, the story only has to be serviceable, and for me it's a damn good show.
     
  2. Methuselah Flint

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    Yes I love TLOZ for all the points you raise.

    I also agree that it's one of the brightest lit episode not only of the third season, but as a series. Gradually, the lighting became less dark and moody from S1 to S3 - as a general sweep - and none more so than here. The Way to Eden is another example that springs to mind. Again, bright lighting, good condition of costumes and the colourful planet.

    As an aside... I've read on here before, possibly from you, the suggestion regarding new uniforms for TLOZ. Do you or anyone have any documented evidence? Not due to disbelief, but would be fascinated to look at any behind-the-scenes stuff.
     
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  3. ZapBrannigan

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    I'm probably the source of that theory. I base it on knowing that Theiss bought all the tunic and mini-dress fabric in white, and then dyed it. And every trip to the cleaners would slightly dull the color. Yet TLOZ uniforms look especially bright and crisp. Mira's dress looks new and tailor-made for her, whereas many times the guest uniform is a hand me down.

    But I'd be pretty stunned if Theiss' accounting book for work and cleaner's bills survived today.
     
  4. Discofan

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    Did you see how Uhura runs in TAS? That's weird!
     
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    You don go-go boots on ice!

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    They always looked like they were running on a conveyor belt I thought! Which might emphasise the horror of the monsters or strange force that they were trying to escape from! :techman:
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  7. Discofan

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    Plus Scotty loses his pants a couple of times... Or is it McCoy?
     
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    Not just his pants but his whole lower body! :guffaw:
    A hallmark of the maximum amount of cell sheets that could be layered
     
  9. CuriousCaitian

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    Can't believe I've never noticed that. :cardie: Spotted plenty of other errors - like M'Ress borrowing I think Uhura's body for some shots - but never that. Naturally I'll be looking closer next time I watch through!

    To be fair to TAS, it's far from the most error-strewn animated series out there. Tiny Toon Adventures, for example, was a pretty high-profile show - Steven Spielberg for a producer, no less - with much greater resources than TAS, but was littered with mistakes, the best I've spotted being a character cell jumping to the other side of the scene for a couple of frames.
     
  10. Maurice

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    Camera mistakes were common. They're even in theatrical shorts like Looney Tunes. Expensive to fix, and most studios other than Disney didn't bother.
     
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  11. Discofan

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    Well, in the Looney Tunes cartoon, more often than not you wouldn't be able to tell if it's intentional.

    It's like when they show you the bloopers of these really goofy Sitcoms. I mean you have to wonder why they didn't leave them in.
     
  12. Maurice

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    Rubbish. When two characters in midstep leap across the frame and back because one of the cels got out of order there's no mistaking that as anything but a mistake.
     
  13. Discofan

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    One would think that with computers a mistake like that would be easy to correct. Hell, I could almost do it with the tools I have at my disposal and I am not even in the business.
     
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    By the 23rd century Vulcans have only been "logical" for about 2,000 years (give or take).

    T'Pau even states: "What thee are about to see comes down from the time of the beginning..."
    ^^^
    And she's not talking about the Vulcan age of Awakening, she's talking about the very beginning of ancient Vulcan society. Pon Far also has a biological component that Vulcans can't ignore. Given all that, they might consider it logical not to change a ritual that involves an aspect of their society they try to suppress the rest of their life. It's a reminder of what they were before the Awakening; and is the only situation where Vulcan emotion is still allowed to exist without shame.

    As Spock stated: "Vulcan understands...but even we don't speak of it among ourselves. It is a deeply personal thing."
     
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    They should stop being so dickish about criticizing other people for being emotional/traditional/irrational.
     
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    It's their way. ;)
     
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  17. Discofan

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    First-time notice: When Cochrane in "First contact" re-plugs the jukebox after Riker shut it off there's a sleeping man behind him that wakes up and starts drinking (again).
     
  18. Methuselah Flint

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    I was thinking the other day.... The Tholian Web is probably the episode featuring the least of Kirk. However, he is constantly referred to/missed, and a focal point for both the crew and the plot. So really I feel we don't 'miss' him as much as we could, as his vicarious presence is felt throughout.
     
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    Im watching 'The Omega Glory' and Tracey says his flunky is 462 years old and his father was over 1000.
    I thought the long life was meant to start after the war. And that would have meant the war would have had to have taken place at least 900 years ago and probably more as it would have taken many generations to build up this incredibly long life.
    That would mean that the civilisation on their planet was much older than Earths. Perhaps they invented the Pledge of Allegiance and it somehow got to Earth 600 years later
     
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  20. Henoch

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    Good catch. I still think these people are left overs from early colonization from Earth but got time travelled back in time. They probably tripped over the same black star that the Enterprise tripped over in the previous season. :shifty:

    I don't think these people count years as we do. Tracey says their ages are based off seeing the red bird. :wtf: Tracey must have done the math gyrations himself to somehow determine that one red bird is the equivalence to 11 Earth years. :crazy:
     
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