HEROES 3x12 "Our Father" Discuss and Grade

[DarthPipes]

Above Average.

The scene between Hiro and his mother was easily one of the best ever on the show. Very touching and Masi Oko acted the hell out of it. It showed the potential of the Hiro character that they have often squandered with bad storylines.

I'm glad they went back to Sylar and just decided to play it for some laughs. I always found him the most unintentionally funny character on television. Claire's scenes with young HRG and her mother were quite good although Old Claire Bear was as useless as ever. The Super Soldier...er, Marine was pretty cool too and the actor did a good job.

Peter was stupid Peter but the confrontation between him, Sylar, Arthur, and the Haitian was quite cool.

Very good show tonight.

 

[Evil Twin]

The freakin' ending got cut off again... what was the final scene? Also, was there a preview for next week?


Damn it, NBC, get your shit together!

Yeah that's been pissing me off. Show's been running a minute or two overtime the past three or four weeks causing the endings to get cut on the DVR. On top of that, my local station was running snow closing announcements on the bottom half of screen all throughout the first half of the episode tonight, consequently killing the HD.

 

[stj]

Average, since skipping part of the episode makes it less painfull, I don't have to rate it below average.

Zachary Quinto can deliver a punchline. "Cake!" Heroes is obviously coping with its artistic teething problems by going camp. Self-parody, yeah, that's the ticket.

Kyle from The 4400 was a cute touch. They should hire all the actors from that show at some point.

It is getting ridiculous that the Haitian still has no name. I know the show has a problem with off-white people but this is crazy.

And speaking of the Haitian, why do the writers expect us not to wonder why they give the gun to the certified nincompoop instead of Nameless Wonder?

 

[Dorian Thompson]

The Haitian was in a weakened state, wasn't he? Why didn't Sylar take his powers...or is that impossible if the Haitian is conscious?

 

[Samurai8472]

Bloody Sylar in the elevator..lol

I was almost expecting a

"and it rides up in the crouch region too"

*awkward silence*

 

[indranee]

People in Japan will like this episode, it so nice that they accually speak Japanese instead of totaly americanizing it by everyone speaking english.

yeah, I always wanted Mohinder and his mom and dad to speak to each other in Malayalee or Kanaddi or whatever Southern Indian region they came from. too bad they had to speak some sort of fake queen's English. before I came here, I used to speak what we call "Convent English". I went to the same sort of schools Mohinder would have gone to, and believe me, that accent ain't it.

 

[Skywalker]

Mohinder was apparently born in Chennai, though I haven't seen that on any "official" sources yet.

 

[indranee]

Mohinder was apparently born in Chennai, though I haven't seen that on any "official" sources yet.

right, then they should have spoken in Tamil when in India.

 

[tomalak301]

Below Average

Maybe it should be average but I voted BA and might as well keep it. They're now just going through the motions to the ending of this volume. It was nice to get evil Sylar back and the stuff between Hiro and his mother was the best this show has done in a while.

 

[Geck]

I voted Excellent - maybe I'm just in a good mood tonight, but I thought this was the best of the season. All plot threads kept me interested, no one annoyed me, and it prompted a 20-minute debate with my friends about temporal paradoxes. I'm satisfied.

 

[Aragorn]

Character moments, great. Plot points, not so much.

Why are the two superhero shows on TV completely at the mercy of the idiot rule to move the story along?

Hey, you're back in time, why destroy the formula all together instead of just getting the catalyst?

Hey, Peter doesn't have any powers, but The Haitian does, so why not slice his head open while he's weak?

 

[Sheep]

The great scene from Hiro and his mother wasn't enough to save this convoluted mess and "mwahahaha!" villainy from Arthur and futile attempts at acting by Milo.

While I did laugh at "Cake?" and the elevator scene, that's going to get old REAL quickly if they don't use it sparingly...and we all know these writers don't know a damn thing about subtlety.

 

[Dream]

I really liked this episode. It could have made a decent finale for the volume. I'm curious at how they will end "Villains" next week.

 

[startrekwatcher]

Average.

I haven't enjoyed Hiro at all this season. The 10 year old man child was eye-rolling. And his mom being a healer was strange. She couldn't heal herself? And if not why didn't Linderman? The scenes between Hiro and his mom I know were meant to resonate but didn't do much given we've never seen her before.

We didn't learn anything about the catalyst. I guess it is some kind of spiritual mumbo jumbo which I really don't care for. The adventure to the past was dull. I don't buy Sylar being that careless walking around covered in blood. I guess you could argue that he's getting sloppy because as he acquires more powers he becomes overconfident. But I don't know. I was expecting something interesting in the sketches but what we got was a non event and hardly urgent and earth-shattering. And I'm tired of the lazy way the writers are moving characters along by dropping easy story directions such as the comic or sketches acting as signposts. It was far better handled in season one.

Peter irritated me when he kept dragging out pulling the trigger. Sylar didn't bother taking the Haitian's power. WTF! Talk about plot convenience. The whole religious experience with Nathan fell by the way side. Peter coping with Sylar's ability went nowhere. Hiro knows Elle and Sylar are bad guys so instead of transporting them to an isolated island far away from civilization he just takes them to the beach. The coherence and attention to detail exhibited by the writers in season one has vanished.

We didn't get any interesting clashes between Angela and Arthur before he exited.

There were a few interesting things like the ideas that are being set up for the next volume and the mystery of Sylar's heritage but the rest were simply boring story points or worse yet interesting ideas poorly handled.

 

[Mallet]

Arthur isn't dead. Even Sylar can't be that dumb. I mean the same thing just happened to Sylar a few hours ago when Noah "killed" him during the eclipse. As soon as the Hatian leaves or drops his power, Arthur will heal back again.

Sylar couldn't risk trying to take the Hatian's power because if he did and the Hatian was able to negate his powers for even a couple of moments, Peter or the Hatian could "kill" him.

 

[Dorian Thompson]

The whole religious experience with Nathan fell by the way side.

The whole "my brother shot me" incident fell by the wayside. To this day, I remain flabbergasted that the writers never played the emotional fallout of that. Nathan was temporarily religious and he got over it. That's it. What is this? The finale to Enterprise? Nathan never stopped trusting Peter. He never got pissed. He never became afraid. Nothing.

Yeah, Sylar not taking the Haitian's powers is pretty convenient. If you can do what the Haitian does, no one can stop you. Mighty, mighty convenient that Sylar didn't even try.

 

[startrekwatcher]

The whole religious experience with Nathan fell by the way side.

The whole "my brother shot me" incident fell by the wayside. To this day, I remain flabbergasted that the writers never played the emotional fallout of that. Nathan was temporarily religious and he got over it. That's it. What is this? The finale to Enterprise? Nathan never stopped trusting Peter. He never got pissed. He never became afraid. Nothing.

Well that has been the problem with the series since season two. They've done away with the idea they had in season one of a massive volume covering a full season and instead have decided to go with shorter volumes. That's fine but they need to realize if you cut back on episodes you have to cut back on the number of story ideas/plot threads you've got going otherwise you'll never do them any justice.

It isn't as if the writers are lacking in good ideas. The problem is they don't concentrate on a manageable few and develop them like is often done in your more modest traditional serialized dramas. I personally prefer a modest ensemble that is pared off into a few different storylines that span several episodes. Instead, you get ideas that either never go anywhere or are just mere plot points treated as a means to catapult the characters off into another direction.

 

[Dream]

Useless Heroes trivia.

Next week's finale episode is called "Duel". The title had been changed multiple times by NBC. It was first named "War" then "Duality" which became "Duel".

 

[SG-17]

Arthur isn't dead. Even Sylar can't be that dumb. I mean the same thing just happened to Sylar a few hours ago when Noah "killed" him during the eclipse. As soon as the Hatian leaves or drops his power, Arthur will heal back again.

No, Arthur was shot in the head. We learned you can't come back from head wounds unless the bullet or object is removed.
Sylar had his throat cut.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

Man, best episode in a long damn time.

Damnit, why do you all have to start loving an episode the week after I give up on the show? (something I've not done since Andromeda, btw) Now I'm gonna have to watch it myself and that's gonna makes me look very wishy-washy.