Spoilers Hawkeye -Discussion Thread

[Paul Weaver]

Roger that. It's looking like it's going to be added to my Christmas playlist, beside Die Hard, Home Alone, and Gremlins.

Christmas movie night last week didn't include Home Alone, but just the normal christmas films - Santa Clause, Polar Express, Elf and of course Die Hard.

 

[danellis]

Congratulations, you're the only person to get that reference!

Always nice to meet a Kevin in the wild.

dJE

 

[Anwar]

BTW, did anyone enjoy Yelena's mini-rant about how the name "Avenger" seems to make people be willing to overlook anything the heroes do?

I mean, they ARE heroes and all. But "Hero Insurance" is usually thing overlooked by series and I enjoy the MCU is recognizing that narrative problem more and more.

 

[thribs]

What do you mean? That was literally the point of Civil War?

 

[Anwar]

Yeah, but now we're getting it from someone other than General Ross so it's easier to process.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Yeah, but now we're getting it from someone other than General Ross so it's easier to process.

Yeah, it comes from a professional super assassin.
She doesn’t call herself a hero and likely never will, but I think she is biased, too.

 

[Seven of Five]

That was so much fun. I really admire the way they pulled off the addition of Daredevil to the MCU universe.

 

[FreezeC77]

Having been spoiled from an appearance in Spider-man: No Way Home although it was anticipated for awhile and rumored anyway so it's not a huge shock. I will put it that No Way Home appearance in spoiler though

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I wonder if it was 100% intentional and timed so the Daredevil/Netflix connection could be revealed in Hawkeye before Spider-Man by about a half day in terms of release. Kingpin was obviously hinted at early on in Hawkeye, but Kingpin gets confirmed and then less than a day later you get Matt Murdoch appearing.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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They said Season finale, which makes me think maybe another season is planned. That's good news.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Yeah, that is encouraging news.

 

[Noname Given]

I guess the walls resurfacing themselves was just the producers' way of showing the passage of five years without things suddenly popping into place, which would look sillier and more jarring. It's just one of those Hollywood tropes: show the passage of time more gradually than it would likely happen in reality were you to make a temporal jump forward or backward when everything would switch instantaneously.

There's more drama in watching the surface pattern on a bathroom wall morph than just change instantly.

I took it as that her senses were readjusting themselves after being dusted and recreated. Her brain was effectively slow in processing enviromental inputs after being destroyed and recreated.

 

[danellis]

I'm in Ohio, and today's high, ten days before Christmas, was in the low 60s. We used to get heavy snow every winter, often blizzards, but these days we get relatively little snow overall.

Although you'd think that 5 years with half the population would've significantly reduced MCU Earth's carbon footprint and reversed global warming a bit. But maybe not. A year of pandemic shutdowns had no significant impact on the warming rate.

Halving the (human) population would take us to about 1975, so I don't think it would make a huge difference in the species' carbon footprint (especially since FatWS suggested that resource use was spread amongst the survivors, rather than being reduced in proportion.

dJE

 

[thribs]

The person at the top is obviously Bully Maguire

 

[Turtletrekker]

I am seeing the advantage to the shorter seasons on Disney plus as opposed to the longer seasons on Netflix. This most recent episode has me wanting to revisit Daredevil, and I haven't in a while, but I remember the Netflix seasons tending to feel overly long and padded out, and I find myself wishing that they were more concise like the Disney plus series have been.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I am seeing the advantage to the shorter seasons on Disney plus as opposed to the longer seasons on Netflix. This most recent episode has me wanting to revisit Daredevil, and I haven't in a while, but I remember the Netflix seasons tending to feel overly long and padded out, and I find myself wishing that they were more concise like the Disney plus series have been.

This. All of the Netflix shows felt padded, I think there seems to be some obligation for 13 episodes, regardless of whether the story needed it. But a 6 episode series is still about twice the length of an average film. It’s good to leave the audience wanting more.

 

[Anwar]

I am seeing the advantage to the shorter seasons on Disney plus as opposed to the longer seasons on Netflix. This most recent episode has me wanting to revisit Daredevil, and I haven't in a while, but I remember the Netflix seasons tending to feel overly long and padded out, and I find myself wishing that they were more concise like the Disney plus series have been.

The Netflix shows all had too many episodes for the plots they were doing. Jessica Jones and Luke Cage in particular ran out of steam 2/3 of the way through. This is why the Defenders was only 8 episodes long.

 

[Tuskin38]

allegedly the season finale is 59 minutes long.

 

[Christopher]

allegedly the season finale is 59 minutes long.

Including the 2 minutes of international dub cast credits at the end?

 

[thribs]

Including the 2 minutes of international dub cast credits at the end?

Don’t forget the the recap and the overly long Marvel Studios logo.