Spoilers Hawkeye -Discussion Thread

[Noname Given]

The show says that Ronin has not been seen in years, but it is now supposed to be only a year after Endgame. When was Clint recruited in Endgame?

Just because Ronin may have been active up until a year ago; he may have been very good at keeping his identity a secret and not made many public appearances. Remember it was James Rhodes who was able to track him down so that Natasha could confront him. Just because we the audience see him, doesn't mean the public necessarily knows about his activities in every single instance.

 

[Anwar]

The show says that Ronin has not been seen in years, but it is now supposed to be only a year after Endgame. When was Clint recruited in Endgame?

This show is supposed to be 2 years after Endgame, so apparently real-time from when Endgame came out till now.

They keep going all over the timeline with the shows and movies these days. WandaVision is supposed to be a few weeks after the Blip, but Far From Home was 18 months after the Blip, then Falcon and Winter Soldier was 6 months after, and then Loki takes place back in 2012 (sort of?) and then there's this which is 2 years after the Blip.

 

[Noname Given]

...and then Loki takes place back in 2012 (sort of?)...

Loki takes place all over the MCU timeline... from the audience's point of view they just pick up a Loki variant in 2012.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Far From Home was 18 months after the Blip,

No, just eight months. Peter and his classmates just made up their lost school year. It wouldn't have taken a year-and-a-half for that.

 

[Turtletrekker]

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[Nightowl1701]

I swear to God, I know he's got to get back to his family for Christmas, but Barton better come back to the LARPers at some point, before or after the holidays, with the outfit seen in 0:01 of that video...

 

[theenglish]

This show is supposed to be 2 years after Endgame, so apparently real-time from when Endgame came out till now.

This was recently revised to one year after Endgame.

 

[Gaith]

I enjoyed the first ep pretty well, but the second was so wretched I'm probably done with the show. Terrible dialogue, nonstop cringey sitcom drama and situations, and everything pitched at a PG - heck, maybe even G-rated tone - no, thanks. I'm out.

 

[Anwar]

This was recently revised to one year after Endgame.

Well, that's better I guess. Fits better with Falcon and Winter Soldier and Far from Home.

 

[thribs]

I think I’ve worked out who the Ronin is. It’s season one Oliver Queen. They were on the list.
This Echo character would make a good Daredevil foe. She’s deaf and he’s blind. It writes itself.

 

[dupersuper]

Well, stepdad is the Swordsman. So probably not a good guy. Though it wouldn't be the first time the MCU used a character in a different way onscreen to keep comic fans guessing.

Not that different: he does eventually become an Avenger.

The first Avengers movie is becoming a bit of a Nexus point for other marvels shows and movies, it's cropped up in Spiderman Homecoming, Endgame and now Hawkeye.

Don't forget Loki.

 

[Nightowl1701]

This Echo character would make a good Daredevil foe. She’s deaf and he’s blind. It writes itself.

You’re not wrong - that’s where she got her start in the comics in 1999, as one of Kingpin’s minions.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Maya's "uncle"...

 

[adv1701]

That voice sounded quite familiar when he touched her cheek.

 

[Reverend]

Maya's "uncle"...

Yeah, that was my thought too. They're obviously being coy about it, so it has to be a character the audience will recognise. Who else but Vincent D'Onofrio as Wilson Fisk will 1) have a pre-existing connection to Echo from the comics, and 2) be recognised on sight.
I guess it could be the sword guy, but that seems a little too obvious a connection.

 

[thribs]

I just assumed the uncle is Kate’s dad

 

[Turtletrekker]

I just assumed the uncle is Kate’s dad

Spoiler: In the comics

In the comics, Maya's father was killed by the Kingpin, who took it upon himself to see that she was taken care of. If I recall correctly, she may even have considered him an adopted father. That is, until she found out that Kingpin was the one who was actually responsible for her father's death.

 

[thribs]

Yeah. The spider man game prequel novel had her in that and had something similar.

 

[Reverend]

Also, the exterior shots of the place where the party/auction went down in episode 1 was shot at the Lotte New York Palace Hotel on Madison (though the news report says Park Avenue), which was also used in Daredevil as the hotel the FBI had Fisk staying in in season 3, redressed as the "Presidential Hotel". Could be a coincidence because it's known as good place to shoot at, but then again, maybe not. I mean who better to be hosting a high class black market auction of pilfered Avengers items?

 

[Anwar]

This show is just 6 episodes, right?

The show is already half over!