Dear God, is there another way?Eating directly out of a pan is not unheard of if you're single and live alone.
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Eating directly out of a pan is not unheard of if you're single and live alone.
I'm a foodie. As a single, I eat my dinners the proper way.
If it has a non-stick coating of any kind, I do the same.
Scraping some non-stick coating into my mouthfull just means my poops will come out smoother. What's the downside?I'm a foodie. As a single, I eat my dinners the proper way.
If it has a non-stick coating of any kind, I do the same.
Granted I'm not much of a cook but it didn't really look like a non-stick pot for what it's worth. Looked like a plastic fork too...
Arguing over fictional macaroni and cheese over the holidays, ah, what a life...
Arguing over fictional macaroni and cheese over the holidays, ah, what a life...
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Oh, I guess I didn't realize that only applied to non-stick pots. I've never owned any other kind.
From a brown burlap food bag hanging from your neck, but that usually turns people off.
Well, I knew that I would not be able to fit in three seasons worth of Daredevil in under a week, but I did manage to watch seasons 1 and 3. Donofrio just owns the role of Wilson Fisk and I'm so pleased that Kevin Feige has brought his incarnation of the character into the MCU.
I don't think there will be any real connections between the events of Hawkeye and the events of Daredevil (outside of an odd Easter egg), but I wanted to get a feel for the character again. As it turns out, it did get me thinking about the character on a larger MCU level.
The way Fisk had accumulated so much power within the FBI and the government,. The way that he had even Agent Hatley under his thumb, among so many others (all of whom which indeed refered to him as "Kingpin"). It made me wonder about the relationship between Fisk and the Contessa. The way the story has been laid out so far, it would seem that Eleanor called Fisk, who then contacted Val, leading to the post credit scene of Black Widow.
So, is Val a contractor working within the government that Fisk finds useful or does Fisk own her the same way he owned Agent Hatley? And if so, is it really Fisk who's assembling a new team of Dark Avengers? Just how big of a threat is Wilson Fisk going to be moving forward? Is he going to remain street-level or is he going to become an Avengers level threat?
I don't think there will be any real connections between the events of Hawkeye and the events of Daredevil (outside of an odd Easter egg), but I wanted to get a feel for the character again. As it turns out, it did get me thinking about the character on a larger MCU level.
The way Fisk had accumulated so much power within the FBI and the government,. The way that he had even Agent Hatley under his thumb, among so many others (all of whom which indeed refered to him as "Kingpin"). It made me wonder about the relationship between Fisk and the Contessa. The way the story has been laid out so far, it would seem that Eleanor called Fisk, who then contacted Val, leading to the post credit scene of Black Widow.
So, is Val a contractor working within the government that Fisk finds useful or does Fisk own her the same way he owned Agent Hatley? And if so, is it really Fisk who's assembling a new team of Dark Avengers? Just how big of a threat is Wilson Fisk going to be moving forward? Is he going to remain street-level or is he going to become an Avengers level threat?
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Even though the Netflixverse probably isn't MCU canon because of contractual stuff and because Feige and his team didn't actually have anything to do with them, I do like to imagine that some version of it did happen in the MCU, except "the incident" in this case was the Blip and the stories happened in that five-year period between IW and Endgame--which I think is an even better explanation than the Battle of New York for why everything seems to have gone to crap.
Only one more day 'til the finale, and only one of two ways this ends. Either
1) Clint makes it home to his family for Christmas, with Kate (and maybe Yelena) in tow, and we see him in the classic comics costume courtesy of Kate and the LARPers, or
2) Clint dies at the hands of Yelena and/or Kingpin.
Gotta admit, this being his MCU debut, Kingpin taking out an OG Avenger (to those unfamiliar with the Netflix shows) would instantly put him on the map as a MAJOR threat going forward. Yelena, on the other hand, would face one hell of a backlash; it'd be pretty damn near unforgivable, especially if she realizes he didn't kill Natasha and still did it anyway. Yet Option 1 almost seems too much to hope for at this point; As Clint said, this series 'has gotten very real, very quickly.' What do y'all think?
1) Clint makes it home to his family for Christmas, with Kate (and maybe Yelena) in tow, and we see him in the classic comics costume courtesy of Kate and the LARPers, or
2) Clint dies at the hands of Yelena and/or Kingpin.
Gotta admit, this being his MCU debut, Kingpin taking out an OG Avenger (to those unfamiliar with the Netflix shows) would instantly put him on the map as a MAJOR threat going forward. Yelena, on the other hand, would face one hell of a backlash; it'd be pretty damn near unforgivable, especially if she realizes he didn't kill Natasha and still did it anyway. Yet Option 1 almost seems too much to hope for at this point; As Clint said, this series 'has gotten very real, very quickly.' What do y'all think?
Why wouldn't the netflix shows be canon MCU? They provide perfect backstories for the characters, it would be downright stupid to just flush all of that down the toilet. And it would be much too complicated to explain some weired variants with multiverse branches.
The studio's logic is generally accepted as being twofold:
1) They wouldn't want to impose on the film writers - why limit them by making them stick to something that has a fraction of the viewership of the films.
2) they wouldn't want to impose on the fans by confusing them with a major development that wasn't explained in one of the films.
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1) They wouldn't want to impose on the film writers - why limit them by making them stick to something that has a fraction of the viewership of the films.
2) they wouldn't want to impose on the fans by confusing them with a major development that wasn't explained in one of the films.
dJE
I tend to agree with this. While I said that I didn't think there would be any connections between the events of the two shows, I didn't mean to imply that they didn't actually happen. Kevin Feige has shown multiple times that he doesn't like to rehash character origins. We didn't see origins for Spider-Man and the Hulk and he chose to go cross dimensional rather than recast characters like Doctor Octopus and Green Goblin and the rest.
If he made the conscious decision to reuse the actors from series that were intended to be set in the MCU, then I see no reason why they wouldn't be considered canon.
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@danellis they wouldn't be imposing anything on anybody. Stories from the Netflix shows are close to a decade in the past in the MCU timeline. Just because nobody talks about Midland Circle anymore doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Luke Cage will appear at some point and possibly the same actor from Netflix. Nothing is off the table.
Hawkeye directors Bert and Bertie have said the Daredevil canon issue will be answered in episode six.
Have they mentioned Area 51 in the MCU at all? Even if we don't go the UFO route, it really is a top secret base where they work on new technology, so it would make sense for S.H.I.E.L.D. to be involved.
I just remembered another show that's a perfect example of this kind of serialization, the The Originals/The Vampire Diaries sequel series, Legacies. While there are arcs that build through the episodes, each episode features a fairly standalone main story, usually focused on a new monster that the one of the show's Big Bads is sending to attack the school where it takes place.
I really like these ideas.Knowing Val, she might own Fisk.
I really want Clint to get a happy ending, so I'm rooting for #1, but I know Clint dying is a pretty good possibility.
If he does die, I can't see Yelena being the one to do it, they seem to be setting her up to become a big hero for the MCU, and I can't see them introducing her to wider MCU by having her kill off one of it's most beloved heroes. I'm pretty sure by the end he'll convince her end her vendetta against him, and even if they don't work together against Fisk, they'll at least go their separate ways peacefully.
My point was that I hoped they wouldn't, but it turns out they have, in the final season of Agents of SHIELD, with a couple of passing mentions in Runaways and the Daily Bugle tie-in site:
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Area_51
Some last minute predictions. Well, last hour and a half predictions...
1) I seriously don't think they'll kill Clint off this series. This has been a light-hearted action-comedy set at Christmas with Clint's family as a strong sub-plot. If they were going to kill off Clint they would have done it with a far different storyline, going down to stop a world-wide threat, or a universe-wide threat like with Natasha.
2)I think Clint will at least try to retire again, but Kate and him are far to great a partnership to never see again.
3) I don't think Kingpin is going to be the main bad-guy, I think he'll be the future bad-guy. Basically if it's him driving the plot, then Maya, working for Kingpin, is trying to kill Clint as Ronin and Yelena is trying to kill him as Kingpin's hireling. Doesn't play out for me. What's Kingpin got against Clint?
4)The main plot is going to resolve what's going on with Eleanor, Jack, and
That will be the surprise ending.
5)Kate will stay in NY because, if for no other reason, the LARPers, a group of cops, firemen, and paramedics who train with medieval weapons, are so much fun and the ultimate back-up team for a budding superheroine.
6)I think the Contessa is coming from something bigger that will play out future series/movies. She's the one with a connection/client that's pushing her at Clint.
So, let's see. Looking forward to it.
Excelsior!
1) I seriously don't think they'll kill Clint off this series. This has been a light-hearted action-comedy set at Christmas with Clint's family as a strong sub-plot. If they were going to kill off Clint they would have done it with a far different storyline, going down to stop a world-wide threat, or a universe-wide threat like with Natasha.
2)I think Clint will at least try to retire again, but Kate and him are far to great a partnership to never see again.
3) I don't think Kingpin is going to be the main bad-guy, I think he'll be the future bad-guy. Basically if it's him driving the plot, then Maya, working for Kingpin, is trying to kill Clint as Ronin and Yelena is trying to kill him as Kingpin's hireling. Doesn't play out for me. What's Kingpin got against Clint?
4)The main plot is going to resolve what's going on with Eleanor, Jack, and
Derick
5)Kate will stay in NY because, if for no other reason, the LARPers, a group of cops, firemen, and paramedics who train with medieval weapons, are so much fun and the ultimate back-up team for a budding superheroine.
6)I think the Contessa is coming from something bigger that will play out future series/movies. She's the one with a connection/client that's pushing her at Clint.
So, let's see. Looking forward to it.
Excelsior!
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