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Has Trek ever done anything holiday-related?

An avuncular fat guy with whiskers who enjoys spending time with children?

Have you considered Voyager?

Very astute Father Huxmas, but a couple of glaring examples of his efforts, or intended ones, have been ignored. Of course, there is First Contact Day, which had a valid rationale of commemorating the launch of the Phoenix and the initial contact with the Vulcans. Interestingly, the only time we saw this actual holiday celebrated aboard Voyager was the episode of Neelix's last contact, directly anyway.

Neelix did try to float the idea of instituting the ancient Vulcan holiday of Rumarie, which to everyone's benefit never went anywhere. On the other hand, given his description of it, which made Festival sound like a sedate picnic, it might very well have been stimulating, salaciously if in no other sense.:) Neelix also wished Tuvok a happy Kal Rekk season, the holiday of course being but a single day and not particularly appropriate for wishing felicitations, at any rate.
Of course, in his continuing quest to earn Tuvok's respect, we have to remember that he seemed partial to Vulacn funeral dirges as well.:lol:

Lastly, I can think of one other Voyager reference, this one by Chakotay in Swarm. When their shield modulations have been disrupted by one of the ships, he remarks something along the lines of Voyager now being lit up like a Christmas tree.
 
An avuncular fat guy with whiskers who enjoys spending time with children?

Have you considered Voyager?

Very astute Father Huxmas, but a couple of glaring examples of his efforts, or intended ones, have been ignored. Of course, there is First Contact Day, which had a valid rationale of commemorating the launch of the Phoenix and the initial contact with the Vulcans. Interestingly, the only time we saw this actual holiday celebrated aboard Voyager was the episode of Neelix's last contact, directly anyway.

Neelix did try to float the idea of instituting the ancient Vulcan holiday of Rumarie, which to everyone's benefit never went anywhere. On the other hand, given his description of it, which made Festival sound like a sedate picnic, it might very well have been stimulating, salaciously if in no other sense.:) Neelix also wished Tuvok a happy Kal Rekk season, the holiday of course being but a single day and not particularly appropriate for wishing felicitations, at any rate.
Of course, in his continuing quest to earn Tuvok's respect, we have to remember that he seemed partial to Vulacn funeral dirges as well.:lol:

Lastly, I can think of one other Voyager reference, this one by Chakotay in Swarm. When their shield modulations have been disrupted by one of the ships, he remarks something along the lines of Voyager now being lit up like a Christmas tree.

Or we can go all the way back to Caretaker when talking about his crime that got him sent to prison Tom Paris claims to have been haunted by the ghosts of three dead Starfleet officers who taught him "the true meaning of Christmas." Though perhaps this is less an indication Christmas is still celebrated and more proof the works of Charles Dickens survive into the 24th century. In fact, we see Data playing A Christmas Carol in TNG.
 
It's worth noting, I think, that the transcript for "Zero Hour" has a starlog entry by T'Pol on February 14, 2152, but no one mentions Valentine's Day by name at all, not only in that one but also actually in any episode that I'm aware of.
When Patrick Stewart hosted Saturday Night Live, there was a skit that crossed over TNG and The Love Boat.

Troi: Data, are you looking forward to the Valentine's cruise?

Data: Saint Valentine. A Christian martyr, beheaded on February 14th, by the Roman empire. Curious. A beheading commemorated by the display of affection. I do not understand the human emotion of love.

Worf: To a Klingon warrior, beheadings are romantic.

****

Also, in Generations, when Picard arrived in the Nexus, it was a very traditional Christmas environment.
 
Or we can go all the way back to Caretaker when talking about his crime that got him sent to prison Tom Paris claims to have been haunted by the ghosts of three dead Starfleet officers who taught him "the true meaning of Christmas." Though perhaps this is less an indication Christmas is still celebrated and more proof the works of Charles Dickens survive into the 24th century. In fact, we see Data playing A Christmas Carol in TNG.

Outstanding pick up!!!! :techman: The distinction you draw on the context of his meaning is an interesting one. I would veer towards the former interpretation as Paris, on the whole, doesn't come across as someone that would instinctively use literary allusions, aside from the fact that his predominant cultural touchstone is mid-20th century mass media and automobiles. Still, Dickens' legacy would likely still be ubiquitous, so the latter intent is certainly plausible.
 
Holidays evolve. Some last, new ones arise while others fade away. Christmas has been observed for centuries although how it is generally observed today is quite different than how it was observed even two hundred years ago. Seeing Christmas is mentioned in Trek there's no reason to not believe it will continue to evolve and be observed in some manner in the far future.

The fact that Kirk knew the phrase "trick or treat" suggests at least some familiarity with the trappings of Halloween. Although I've always resisted the idea of Halloween as a holiday given no one gets any time off on that day. The same with Valentine's Day. But given both Halloween and Valentine's Day are at least centuries old celebrations it reasonable to expect them to continue into the far future.

Thanksgiving could, as mentioned upthread, have a completely different meaning in the future of the Trek universe. What ties it to American Thanksgiving is the reference to turkeys, but turkeys aren't exclusive to American Thanksgiving.


The impression I've long had with Trek is that many celebrations might be observed in the future even if they aren't observed by everyone. In the least they are respected.
 
I guess I've always just assumed that by the 24th century the War on Christmas is over and that Christmas had lost.
 
I guess I've always just assumed that by the 24th century the War on Christmas is over and that Christmas had lost.
The fact that Christmas is mentioned at least twice in Trek argues that Christmas did not lose that war or at least the battle continues.
 
There is the Klingon Day Of Honor, from Voyager. I've often wondered 100 or so years from now, if Earth holidays are a thing of the past.

Holidays evolve. Some last, new ones arise while others fade away. Christmas has been observed for centuries although how it is generally observed today is quite different than how it was observed even two hundred years ago. Seeing Christmas is mentioned in Trek there's no reason to not believe it will continue to evolve and be observed in some manner in the far future.

The fact that Kirk knew the phrase "trick or treat" suggests at least some familiarity with the trappings of Halloween. Although I've always resisted the idea of Halloween as a holiday given no one gets any time off on that day. The same with Valentine's Day. But given both Halloween and Valentine's Day are at least centuries old celebrations it reasonable to expect them to continue into the far future.

Thanksgiving could, as mentioned upthread, have a completely different meaning in the future of the Trek universe. What ties it to American Thanksgiving is the reference to turkeys, but turkeys aren't exclusive to American Thanksgiving.


The impression I've long had with Trek is that many celebrations might be observed in the future even if they aren't observed by everyone. In the least they are respected.


Both of these quotes are quite interesting. It is interesting to think that in the enlightened ST universe many of the holidays we have now will be gone as:

1. Hopefully [as seems likely], religion is on its last legs and thus the plethora of holidays that surround it will likewise have faded.

2. As we see now, Christmas for very many has no religious connection whatsoever, instead it is a secular holiday for sharing and being with family. Perhaps the Christmas of ST is a humanist event with historical ties to old religions. Likewise for halloween.

3. Many of the holidays we have now serve the purpose of giving the working classes some time off from their jobs. In Scotland, for example, we have St Andrews days and it seems logical to assume that in ST's 24th century it is long dead as there is no religious significance to it NOW so it must have even less in the ST timeline and, interestingly, there is no 'forced' employment like we have now so it would really serve no purpose.

4. With an entity as large as the Federation, having so many different species with so many different holidays would surely be a logistical nightmare. Perhaps there are even Federation-themed holidays? Such as 'Federation Day' to mark the forming of the UFP etc. Interesting thought.
 
3. Many of the holidays we have now serve the purpose of giving the working classes some time off from their jobs. <snip> there is no 'forced' employment like we have now so it would really serve no purpose.
Without this reason to justify it, officially recognizing days for people to celebrate would seem like an endorsement of those religions or causes, and would also seem unwisely if not dangerously like groupthink. Many people may celebrate Christmas - but to bring it up publicly or to base social interactions on it outside of that celebration might be seen as tacky.

People probably plan small get-togethers for all sorts of occasions on the various ships and locales through whatever their equivalent of the Internet is.
 
The reference to the Rumarie is intriguing. Here's the quote from "Meld", telling us everything we know about the Rumarie:
Meld said:
NEELIX: I don't suppose you've ever heard of the Vulcan Rumarie?
TUVOK: The Rumarie is an ancient pagan festival.
NEELIX: Full of barely clothed Vulcan men and women covered in slippery Rillan grease, chasing one another.
TUVOK: That has not been observed for a millennium.

The thing is, Vulcan society was reformed by Surak in the 4th century (per "Gambit" and "Awakening"). So there was a period of time, for approximately 1000 years when the logical, Surak followers allowed themselves a little bit of a Bacchanalia every year or so.

It's possible, though, that this is just an indication how long a sizable culture of non-Surakians held out on Vulcan ("Vulcan pagans"), before absorption.
 
Logical Vulcans also maintained a tradition of savage fights to the death for mates. :vulcan:

Kor
 
Relevant to this discussion, Pocket Books actually published a guide to Star Trek holidays years ago: STAR TREK CELEBRATIONS by Maureen McTigue.
 
Memory Alpha has a whole write-up of Christmas in Trek.

One of the most prominant appearances of the holiday is the "vision" that Picard has of his "family" in Generations, complete with Christmas tree and holiday decorations. Granted, it was an illusion set up by the Nexus, but still seemingly generated from Picard's mind as to what the ideal family gathering would be like.

In fact, the MA page cites numerous canonical references to contemporary Christmas celebrations in the 23rd and 24th centuries.
 
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