Harry Kim's promotion... or lack of it.

[Kobayshi Maru]

Getting assigned to Voyager was really a bad career move for Harry Kim. He isn't promoted even once in seven years!!! Ds9's Nog gets promoted three times in two years! In fact when Harry Kim comes to Ds9 Nog is doing odd jobs for his uncle quark for a pittance with little career expectations. Five years later Kim would have to call Nog, sir!!!

 

[bbjeg]

This thread wasn't so old that it couldn't use a bump.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

No. We must speak freshly in new threads of the pipless Harry.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Ooh, they should have had Harry assigned to DS9 after getting home directly under Nog.

Kim "Congratulations on being the first Farengi in Starfleet."
Nog "Thanks! I could hardly even read nine years ago, I was pretty much a petty thief. Then two years later I decided I wanted to join Starfleet and Captain Sisko wrote a letter of recommendation for me. I was in the Academy for two years until I was given an Ensign commission because of the war. I was immediately posted on the bridge of the most important ship in the front, so after the war two years later I was immediately made lieutenant. What about you? Are you a new graduate?"
Kim "Umm...yeah, that's it." *grumble*

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

^aaaaaaaahahaha

 

[urbandefault]

Janeway explained it to him. In their situation, there was no room for promotion. What she didn't tell him was that he was basically a putz and a placeholder, a loser who could be easily replaced.

And she promoted Tuvok to LTC. Knife twist, salt in the wound.

Never let it be said that Kathy didn't have a sense of humor.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The hilarious thing is it seems to actually bother Wang that Harry was never promoted.

 

[urbandefault]

The hilarious thing is it seems to actually bother Wang that Harry was never promoted.

And if it really bothered him that much, he didn't have to keep showing up to work.

I guess it's true. Money talks.

 

[Makarov]

Wang should be bothered because it's a really stupid writing decision. Considering Harry Kim is said to be sort of popular among the lower ranking crew, promoting him would be great for the lower crew's morale and prevent mutiny. Plenty of godawful episodes they could have replaced with one involving him getting promoted.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

How do we know he is popular?

 

[Makarov]

It's specifically mentioned in the episode where he is commanding the night shift and beams that AI bomb on board.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Lies.

That was just her biological clock speaking.

(I saw something yesterday, where the hero has a house guest, comes home early from a night out to see said house guest on her sofa entwined with some random. The hero covers her eyes and states very clearly "If you've had sex on my couch, you're taking it with you when you leave.")

And she wanted to soil Janeway's chair.

Hmm?

KIM: Helm, status?
JENKINS: Current speed, warp five, heading oh twenty one, mark three.
KIM: Anything on long range sensors?
JENKINS: Nothing to report.
KIM: As you were.
JENKINS: Permission to speak freely, sir.
KIM: Why would tonight be any different?
JENKINS: People have been talking about you.
KIM: Oh?
JENKINS: Rumour has it you were the one who outsmarted the smart bomb.
KIM: Well, not exactly. I made First Contact with a sentient being. All I did was help it understand a few things. The rest was up to him.
JENKINS: Understood. Actually, I've been authorised by the junior staff to thank you for keeping us in one piece.
KIM: You're welcome. Any time. Do me a favour?
JENKINS: Of course, sir.
KIM: No more distress calls. At least not tonight.

You know what my pessimism vision finds from that quote?

Kim doesn't talk to the lower ranks and the lower ranks don't talk to him.

Are their grades of Ensigns, or was Jenkins talking about the Enlisted Ranks which Berman usually forgets the existence of?

EDIT

McKenzie Westmore who played Jenkins was a child actor in Season 1 of TNG

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/McKenzie_Westmore

In TNG, (it seems) that we didn't know the characters surname, and in Voyager we didn't know the characters Christian name.

ITCOULDBETHESAMEGIRL?!?

Although it's not very likely since the two characters look nothing alike.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

If he was that popular why no girlfriend.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or boyfriend?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Yeah WHY NO BOYFRIEND STAR TREK!

 

[Makarov]

He had a girlfriend back home and multiple alien of the week girlfriends... he's borderline Kirk or Riker as far as getting action goes

 

[Melakon]

Harry had a girlfriend, but like the song says, he left his heart in San Francisco. But he must have forgotten all about Libby once hot alien chicks wanted to have his babies.

Either ninja'd by Makarov in the same instant, or it's a case of two minds with a single thought.

 

[Makarov]

Harry had a girlfriend, but like the song says, he left his heart in San Francisco. But he must have forgotten all about Libby once hot alien chicks wanted to have his babies.

What happens in the Delta Quadrant stays in the Delta Quadrant

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

We all forgot about Libby.

But think about it, imagine if he'd been pining over Libby for 7 years, it would have been very gaggy.

 

[Guy Gardener]

In the future, with even cloning tech seen on Enterprise with Elizabeth Tucker, two men can have a baby that is a valid combination/blending of their DNA.

(Hey God!? Go fuck yourself.)

A homosexual love affair is just as profitable to the genepool as what straight people get up to.

Although?

Sex with aliens, or selecting alien donors for a test tube baby, seems like an end around on the Eugenics ban.