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Spoilers Halo: Season One - Discussion Thread

There wasn’t much moral ambiguity in the original version of the Insurrectionists as they were usually insane terrorists to a level the book was using to justify kidnapping children to turn into super solider with brutal unethical experiments and then had them conveniently fuck off when the war with the Covenant got started so the Spartans don’t have to do any morally ambiguous shit.

I mean, it shows the UNSC is a bunch of scumbags and if there's a resistance to them then it's probably justified.

And it's hard to be a colonial resistance when all the colonies have been destroyed.
 
Just had a chance to watch Episode 3, and Makee, despite her hostility towards humanity, has joined Halsey, Miranda, Kwan, Soren, and Silver Team as one of the show's best/most interesting characters.

Cortana has also joined that list, largely due to the fact that the writers initially made her interactions with John/Master Chief rather 'prickly'.

Even after only 3 episodes, I'm really liking this show and can't wait to see where it goes next.
 
For those who don't know. The actress who plays Halsey was also meant to also voice Cortana, but covid and logistics prevented that. So they brought in the VA from the games to do her dialogue.
Probably the best decision they made.

Episode 4 was pretty good but it seems rather obvious what happened to John’s family. Hopefully they don’t “Picard” it and draw it out excessively.
Learning a little from the other Spartans was good as well. Hopefully we get to see the Grunts by the season finale.
 
Episode 4

The show is dragging its feet so much that i am starting to believe Marvel's approach with the mini 6 episode format is the better way. A third of the episode is about that new character Kwan who wants to restart her father's insurgency cell ( boring as hell, i hope that storyline has some real purpose later on) which to me is something that doesn't work at all in the concept of the show.

Master Chief is on a memory quest for the entire episode, it's good i watched this at noon or i might have dozed off.

About the only interesting part was Miranda Keyes' research into the Artifact and her interacting with the other Spartans, especially Kai 125, who has removed her emotional inhibitor just the same as Master Chief and is now showing signs of the same changes that Master Chief does. We learn a bit more about the Spartans and it leads to a fantastic scene where they discover that the Covenant talk about something they call Halo ( complete with the iconic Halo theme playing in the background - very nice touch).

Master Chief finally discovers that second pillar like artifact where the other needs to apparently slot in - i assume this will point them directly to the Halo installation, where the show will finally and truly begin.

I don't know what to make of this show anymore - there are some interesting elements and they all revolve around the Spartans and Halo but as soon as the show picks up the other elements it drops off into boring and uninteresting. I don't know what they want to achieve with that but it seems like they needed something to pad out the season because otherwise by now they should be on Halo. Given that the entire season is 9 episodes prepare for more boredom unless they pull off the best switch in TV history and bring back everything together in a way that blows everyone's minds. I have my doubts.
 
Season one is world building I gather. Season two will properly start the Halo arc

Dangerous game to play if you lose viewers because the show is too slow or your world building is not interesting enough. I like some of the departures from the holy bible that is the Halo games but some elements like Kwan Ha fall completely flat at the moment. I don't know what purpose she serves now within the show, the first 2 episodes were ok when they needed a face to represent people outside the human core worlds but now? She is doing her own thing with no connection to the greater story and just slows down the episodes.
 
Dangerous game to play if you lose viewers because the show is too slow or your world building is not interesting enough. I like some of the departures from the holy bible that is the Halo games but some elements like Kwan Ha fall completely flat at the moment. I don't know what purpose she serves now within the show, the first 2 episodes were ok when they needed a face to represent people outside the human core worlds but now? She is doing her own thing with no connection to the greater story and just slows down the episodes.

I'm pretty sure Kwan is there to watch Madrigal get Alderaaned.
 
I'm pretty sure Kwan is there to watch Madrigal get Alderaaned.

Do we need to spend a third of the season just for that one payoff? I really hope they have something good planned for that character, i just don't see it at the moment.

The glassing of Reach however should be one hell of an episode.
 
Do we need to spend a third of the season just for that one payoff? I really hope they have something good planned for that character, i just don't see it at the moment.

The glassing of Reach however should be one hell of an episode.

Eh, the glassing of Reach is kind of throwing a lot of the payload out in one blow because that's the end of the entirety of the UNSC as a military force. It's also where we've established all of the characters living. I think they're trying to go with a slow burn by establishing the Covenant getting increasingly more dangerous and deadly with everyone getting more and more beaten down.

A lot of the places we're visiting get destroyed after all and having visited them before, we the audience will feel more.

Kwan is annoying now but it's an actual arc if she's forced to confront that there's no Independents and Earthers now (Expanse joke), only humans vs. aliens.
 
Kwan is annoying now but it's an actual arc if she's forced to confront that there's no Independents and Earthers now (Expanse joke), only humans vs. aliens.

It's not going to be that simple, I very much doubt the final theme of the show will be "despotic, dictatorial oppression with mass-executions and jack-booted thugs cattle-prodding people in the streets is fine, because the space-lizards might come back at some point." If Kwan does end up thinking all the humans need to get on the same page, it's going to be Fincher who's the bad guy, hurting humanity to line his own pockets because he regards the outer colonists as less-than, that the UNSC being unable to break their addition to imperialism and oppression is weakening them against the external threat.
 
Awesome how Lady-Spartan-colored-my-hair and scientist-daughter start to bond a little, while also moving the plot forward with speech discovering the "Halo" eventually :techman:

Can't wait for them to team up with MC (hopefully) for the future.

Also very annoyed and bored by the whole "revenge survivor girl" + "Spartan pal" and evil dictator "Murty" who now controls her dad's people/place-whatever- storyline.

MC "halohololensing" to find out the artifacts other part/thing with the very ominous threat assessment of evil doctor/scientist Halsey voiceover by probably good scientist-daughter was fun.
 
Loving the world-building. Really like the tease to Halo. Weird that this ep had no Covenant at all. What happened to Makee? The plot is Kwan is a bit boring IMO. John discovering the pillar and learning more about his past was cool. But the episode does seem kind of slow. Not saying every episode has to be Spartans killing Covenant but could we get some Master Chief action? Other than the action sequence at the start of ep 1, Master Chief has basically just wandered around with his helmet off, talking, seeing visions etc....
 
Last we saw Makee, she was heading for Madrigal, and was apparently alone on a Covenant corvette except for a Hunter (or two), so nothing to do and no one to talk to. We're probably not going to see her again until Kwan and Soren's plot has advanced to the point where shit's ready to hit the wind there.
 
It's not going to be that simple, I very much doubt the final theme of the show will be "despotic, dictatorial oppression with mass-executions and jack-booted thugs cattle-prodding people in the streets is fine, because the space-lizards might come back at some point." If Kwan does end up thinking all the humans need to get on the same page, it's going to be Fincher who's the bad guy, hurting humanity to line his own pockets because he regards the outer colonists as less-than, that the UNSC being unable to break their addition to imperialism and oppression is weakening them against the external threat.

I mean, that's just not Halo because Humanity is pushed to the brink of the extinction by the Covenant. Humanity's divisions being put aside is kind of one of the themes of the games. If they have humanity fighting itself to the end it's a very different setting.

Mind you, I'm going by the fact there ARE NO colonies left by the end of things so an independence movement is largely moot.
 
It's not going to be that simple, I very much doubt the final theme of the show will be "despotic, dictatorial oppression with mass-executions and jack-booted thugs cattle-prodding people in the streets is fine, because the space-lizards might come back at some point." If Kwan does end up thinking all the humans need to get on the same page, it's going to be Fincher who's the bad guy, hurting humanity to line his own pockets because he regards the outer colonists as less-than, that the UNSC being unable to break their addition to imperialism and oppression is weakening them against the external threat.
One would hope that the coming together of the disgusting humans would be reflective of a cooperative covenant, rather than a black or white solution.
 
Sad to say I gave up on this show after the second episode. Not a single character, performance or storyline stood out to me as anything special. There's way, way better stuff on TV, IMO at least.

Once the whole season has dropped I'll do some reading and chatting and see if it picks up, but generally I found the only thing Halo was doing were things that others shows have already done much better.
 
Preview for next week's episode. Looks like we finally get some action.

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I don’t like Kwan walking around in public when there’s a bounty on her head. This was questionable even on Rubble; on Madrigal it’s absolutely insane. How is that nobody besides Attu recognized her?
 
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