Do you believe that a half-trill and half-human individual would be able to have a Trill symbiont, either physiologically or gain the approval of the Trill Symbios Commission?
Half-Trill
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I actually just watched "Children of Time" from Season 5, and one thing that kept running through my head was who Jadzia must have procreated with to have so much Trill DNA floating around the village. There were no other Trill that we know of, so Jadzia's offspring must have been half-something else. The Dax symbiont continued to be passed down through the generations, so obviously being a full Trill is not a requirement for bonding. Heck, maybe you don't need to be a Trill at all.
^Heck--Riker served as a host, didn't he?
Well, back than, recall that Starfleet knew nothing about joining. After years of medical research...
I rather doubt the biology of the host has much bearing on the joining. It's just that the slugs are comfortable with the spotted humanoid species (perhaps because those have a more convenient stomach than other types), and it's in their interests to control the entire society and the joining process by imposing all sorts of fictitious limitations.
It's doubful if Jadzia ever was a Trill, really. That is, Trill could well be the species name of the symbionts, while the humanoid hosts would represent all sorts of species (and Jadzia and Erzi would be Kriosians, for example). And of course anybody who would be citizen of the Trill society would be considered a Trill, regardless of species or state of joining.
Timo Saloniemi
It's doubful if Jadzia ever was a Trill, really. That is, Trill could well be the species name of the symbionts, while the humanoid hosts would represent all sorts of species (and Jadzia and Erzi would be Kriosians, for example). And of course anybody who would be citizen of the Trill society would be considered a Trill, regardless of species or state of joining.
Timo Saloniemi
It's the name of the planet and the culture as well, true. But somebody like "the Trill Ambassador" could be a Klingon for all we know - the identity of the planet and the culture is not directly tied to the identity of the biological species.
IIRC, the only time there is mention of "unjoined Trill" when referring to the humanoid species is in "Equilibrium" where the Guardians are discussed.
Timo Saloniemi
IIRC, the only time there is mention of "unjoined Trill" when referring to the humanoid species is in "Equilibrium" where the Guardians are discussed.
Timo Saloniemi
The problems with integrating the slug and Riker seemed to be minimal. And Odan integrated into at least two people who weren't of the spotted host species. I wouldn't consider Andorians a major problem, unless something in the slug physiology requires a host blood type that is only found on humans, Kriosians and those ridgefaces of "The Host". But as far as we know, the slug isn't a foetus, and doesn't require a placenta for feeding (unless Riker is keeping some secrets from us).
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Timo Saloniemi
The Outcast just got a whole layer of squick added ontop of it.
You forgot Facets. Leeta explained to everyone who was going to participate in Jadzia's zhian'tara what the Guardians were: "they're unjoined Trill who take care of the symbionts." In Facets, it was an unjoined Trill, a Guardian, that performed Jadzia's zhian'tara and transferred the memories of Dax's previous hosts to members of DS9.
Ah, very true.
Could the Guardians be unjoined Trills in the sense of being Trills (people intruded by a Trill) who have since unjoined? That'd give them special status all right - such unjoining seems to carry major health risks. But if it gives the former host a lingering taste of the slug's centuries-old wisdom...
Or perhaps it works the other way around. The Guardians might volunteer to host young and inexperienced slugs for a brief while before they get their first true humanoid bodies; the Guardians would harden themselves for the ordeal by unjoining.
Just musin'.
Timo Saloniemi
Could the Guardians be unjoined Trills in the sense of being Trills (people intruded by a Trill) who have since unjoined? That'd give them special status all right - such unjoining seems to carry major health risks. But if it gives the former host a lingering taste of the slug's centuries-old wisdom...
Or perhaps it works the other way around. The Guardians might volunteer to host young and inexperienced slugs for a brief while before they get their first true humanoid bodies; the Guardians would harden themselves for the ordeal by unjoining.
Just musin'.
Timo Saloniemi
I was curious as to how transport occurred for the symbiont. In the TNG episode they sent a Trill host but why didn't they send a host to DS9, why did a ship carry it back and then Ezri had to get it accidentally? Maybe I missed something.
Well they were in a middle of a war at the time. It probably wouldn't have been safe to send someone in a shuttle that likely would have been attacked if it wasn't of Cardassian or Dominion design. Initially, the plan was to get the Dax symbiont to the Trill homeworld so it could recuperate in the pool. But Ezri said it took a turn for the worse along the way and needed a host body immediately in order to heal in time. She was the only Trill onboard the Destiny and was obligated to help the symbiont even though she didn't go through the training process (which was unnecessary anyway as mentioed in "Equiblibrum").
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