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Gundam: Requiem for Vengeance New CG series set in the UC timeline.

Another series that tells the events on the Zeon side. Honestly it seems in bad taste to me. Zeon have always been portrayed as the "Space Nazis". I mean, they literally killed half of humanity in the first week of the war. But the last few series are all like "But no, Federation and Zeon are two sides of the same coin, no one is really right or wrong, there's just someone who did questionable things etc".

If they did something like this with WWII films by showing the Allies and the Axis as morally equivalent there would be endless protests (rightly so). Now I know it's all fictitious, but it seems like a symptom of that historical revisionism that is becoming dangerous in my opinion.
 
@Skipper
Well this one is about the ground pounders, not at all the ones that gassed a colony.

Though I do agree. to much of "shades of grey" stuff going on with this and other film series showing evil in a good light.
 
@Skipper
Well this one is about the ground pounders, not at all the ones that gassed a colony.

Though I do agree. to much of "shades of grey" stuff going on with this and other film series showing evil in a good light.
Well, it's not that all Germans worked in concentration camps, but that didn't stop all the people from suffering from a collective sense of guilt after the truth about these horrors was discovered. But in the world of Gundam, for some nebulous reason, a genocide is morally equivalent to whatever the Federation did to anger Zeon (something about lack of autonomy or similar) and all the stories told do their best to hammer home the point. At most the Zeon soldiers complain that they are cannon fodder etc etc but no one really doubts the rightness of their cause.

I fear that this somehow reflects the Japanese self-absolution for the horrors they committed during WWII.
 
@Skipper
Atleast they never really portayed the Zabi's as anything less than Evil,

Gihren has never been portrayed as "Sympathetic" he's always been a space nazi.
Degwin came around at the end to say this is to much, but yeah, still a bad through out.
Sasro was bad, till his early death
Kycilia is.. well just as bad as Gihren.. and never really been portrayed as anywhere good.
Dozle was a bit more sympathetic, but still went along with all the horrible stuff, so still bad.
Garma was just a Moron
Mineva was a decent person, but not really raised a Zabi.
 
@Skipper
Atleast they never really portayed the Zabi's as anything less than Evil,

Gihren has never been portrayed as "Sympathetic" he's always been a space nazi.
Degwin came around at the end to say this is to much, but yeah, still a bad through out.
Sasro was bad, till his early death
Kycilia is.. well just as bad as Gihren.. and never really been portrayed as anywhere good.
Dozle was a bit more sympathetic, but still went along with all the horrible stuff, so still bad.
Garma was just a Moron
Mineva was a decent person, but not really raised a Zabi.

Yes, but in the later series they showed that a LOT of people still dream of carrying on the Zeon reich or whatever. It would be the equivalent of the Nazis who escaped to South America, but in an abnormal number. Judging by how many appear and how small the Zeon population was, it would be as if millions and millions of Germans were proportionately dreaming of Hitler's return. And every now and then they still want to throw an asteroid at Earth, just in case.

A few years ago I saw Hathaway's flash whose protagonist is practically a terrorist who is portrayed in a sympathetic way, or at least morally equivalent to the "cruel" Federation, which honestly one never understands what he has ever done that was so cruel to deserve cities destroyed and continents swept away. It would be like if in a film the IRA wiped out London with a nuke and the script clearly said that basically, well, war makes you do terrible things but the UK really deserved it, right?

Then I remember that we're talking about people who thought it was a great idea to have idols dress like that and maybe it's just a cultural thing, "Nazis in space" is cool and the uniforms are very elegant.

Then I remember that we're talking about people who thought it was a great idea to have idols dress like that and maybe it's just a cultural thing, "Nazis in space" is cool and the uniforms are very elegant and I just have to understand that I can't judge them with the eyes of a Westerner or whatever.

 
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