They were ordered only to prevent the ship from reaching teh ground not to try and destroy it. As long as Ronan had the power gem he was unstoppable, all they had was Quill's plan and that was questionable at best.
GUARDIANS of the GALAXY - Grading & Discussion
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They were ordered only to prevent the ship from reaching teh ground not to try and destroy it. As long as Ronan had the power gem he was unstoppable, all they had was Quill's plan and that was questionable at best.
Questions.
If the bad guy's Infinity Stone could wipe out the planet as soon as it touches the planet itself, why come in a huge ship that draws everyone's attention? Just come in an escape pod or a piece of crap?
If I sell my iPad to a pawn shop, I want to get rid of it for money. I don't want or expect the store clerk to give me a history of the Apple company.. but that what this stupid Collector does. Why did he tell them all that?
So really, we have a typical MacGuffin, a villain who works for a more powerful villain who he wishes to betray.. but both villains have deep and brooding voices and aside form Thanos chin, they are interchangeable.
I know this film is based on a comic book, does anyone else thinking that - if you just take the film on its own - that the character of Quill is a way that the story tellers can have it both ways. He's both a fish out of water (a human.. someone that audience can use as a POV character) and someone that knows everything so they wouldn't have him question everything (because he's been in space for over 20 years) so that way they can just tell us the story with all the shortcuts they want?
I thought it was Drax that had trouble with analogies, so why did Gamora have trouble with the "sticks up their butts" scene? I mean, maybe she wouldn't get that phrase, but the writers have to draw distinct personalities and having tow different characters share the same singular trait that, at least for one of them, distinguishes them because it's a significant trait?
Does it really make any sense that they would start a fun romp with someone dying of cancer?? Maybe this is neither here nor there, but tone is so important to a film.
Why is Gamora a weapon? She's a competent fighter at times, but gets beat up at other times. She didn't seem all that weapon like. And Nebula just looked like a girl doing cosplay... they even forgot to modify her voice at the end.
Despite the SFX, the main alien city on the good planet (I just don't know the name) looked like the city in Logan's Run. The Knowhere scenes looked like crap, reminding me of the bad hovercar chase scenes form the Stallone Judge Dredd film.
Always liked Howard the Duck. Heh.
If the bad guy's Infinity Stone could wipe out the planet as soon as it touches the planet itself, why come in a huge ship that draws everyone's attention? Just come in an escape pod or a piece of crap?
If I sell my iPad to a pawn shop, I want to get rid of it for money. I don't want or expect the store clerk to give me a history of the Apple company.. but that what this stupid Collector does. Why did he tell them all that?
So really, we have a typical MacGuffin, a villain who works for a more powerful villain who he wishes to betray.. but both villains have deep and brooding voices and aside form Thanos chin, they are interchangeable.
I know this film is based on a comic book, does anyone else thinking that - if you just take the film on its own - that the character of Quill is a way that the story tellers can have it both ways. He's both a fish out of water (a human.. someone that audience can use as a POV character) and someone that knows everything so they wouldn't have him question everything (because he's been in space for over 20 years) so that way they can just tell us the story with all the shortcuts they want?
I thought it was Drax that had trouble with analogies, so why did Gamora have trouble with the "sticks up their butts" scene? I mean, maybe she wouldn't get that phrase, but the writers have to draw distinct personalities and having tow different characters share the same singular trait that, at least for one of them, distinguishes them because it's a significant trait?
Does it really make any sense that they would start a fun romp with someone dying of cancer?? Maybe this is neither here nor there, but tone is so important to a film.
Why is Gamora a weapon? She's a competent fighter at times, but gets beat up at other times. She didn't seem all that weapon like. And Nebula just looked like a girl doing cosplay... they even forgot to modify her voice at the end.
Despite the SFX, the main alien city on the good planet (I just don't know the name) looked like the city in Logan's Run. The Knowhere scenes looked like crap, reminding me of the bad hovercar chase scenes form the Stallone Judge Dredd film.
Always liked Howard the Duck. Heh.
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He knew nobody could stop him so why not come in a huge ship?
Because they asked.
No, Ronan is a thug, Thanos has bigger plans.
I've heard this called the Pixar effect, tragedy followed comedy.
Nebula was the one to realy beat up on Gamora and she needed a powerful weapon to do that, otherwise Gamora was able to fight anybody she went against.
It didn't look like the dome city in Logan's Run to me, it was huge open city.
Aside form the fact that it's in a Dome, both cities "felt" the same to me
Or maybe the writers just decided it was easier to plagiarize a punch-line from Two and a Half Men for a cheap joke and leave it to nerds to struggle to rationalize the logical inconsistencies.
I thought it was associated with the dancing baby from Ally McBeal.
It would have been better had they made all his pop-culture references revolve around what an 8-year old boy would have been into at the time he was taken, which would have been a decidedly juvenile (and prepubescent) sensibility. So yes on the Raiders, no on the Maltese Falcon or Jackson Pollock. This would help drive home the suspended-development man-child aspect of his personality a lot better.
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Not mine. But somebody's home made dancing baby Groot.
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A longer take than one in the wee hours afterwards...
I'm a middling comic fan in terms of depth, most of what I've read [and have boxed away] is mid 80s to mid 90s, and I'm a bit conversant with the 60s--70s stuff from friends who had collections whilst growing up. I'd barely heard of GotG and knew nothing about most of the characters, though what I did read included the original Infinity Gauntlet series so the bg was familiar. But it also means I had no expectations for this other than a general faith in what the MCU has delivered this far, which might actually have helped.
I thought it was a hoot, very comic-book-y [but I mean that in a good way] and a nice leap up the cosmic-action scale from the previous ones. All the actors did a good job, though I wish Karen had more to do as Nebula, perhaps we'll see more in the sequel. Rocket and Groot were my favorite things to be sure...
The tragedy-comedy mix was a very interesting one, and I agree that the starting-with-cancer idea was a bold one... I think it worked because it made you look at Quill with a bit more depth than just his larcenous/lecherous ways would otherwise suggest right off the bat, implying psychological compensation as a motive. They did give each main character some time for character bits, though oddly I thought Groot's expressions were the most effective. His look of shock and hurt when the gambling table creatures were eaten was perhaps my favorite moment in the whole film.
I'm a middling comic fan in terms of depth, most of what I've read [and have boxed away] is mid 80s to mid 90s, and I'm a bit conversant with the 60s--70s stuff from friends who had collections whilst growing up. I'd barely heard of GotG and knew nothing about most of the characters, though what I did read included the original Infinity Gauntlet series so the bg was familiar. But it also means I had no expectations for this other than a general faith in what the MCU has delivered this far, which might actually have helped.
I thought it was a hoot, very comic-book-y [but I mean that in a good way] and a nice leap up the cosmic-action scale from the previous ones. All the actors did a good job, though I wish Karen had more to do as Nebula, perhaps we'll see more in the sequel. Rocket and Groot were my favorite things to be sure...
The tragedy-comedy mix was a very interesting one, and I agree that the starting-with-cancer idea was a bold one... I think it worked because it made you look at Quill with a bit more depth than just his larcenous/lecherous ways would otherwise suggest right off the bat, implying psychological compensation as a motive. They did give each main character some time for character bits, though oddly I thought Groot's expressions were the most effective. His look of shock and hurt when the gambling table creatures were eaten was perhaps my favorite moment in the whole film.
How much in the MCU, though? As of the 2014 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode "Yes Men", Sif believed that no extraterrestrials besides Asgardians, Vanir (Hogun), Frost Giants (Loki), Chitauri, and Dark Elves had visited Earth recently, and she's got Heimdall as a source of information on that.
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Heimdall can only see something if he's looking at it. If other aliens visted Earth while his attention was elsewhere, he might have missed it.
Pretty cool. Seems like a missed toy opportunity for the movie.
Guardians is definitely more humorous than the other recent Marvel films. Case in point - Quill challenging Ronan to a dance-off is a much funnier duel than Captain America letting the Winter Soldier punch him in the face.
Pretty sure some company is fixing that mistake right now.
Though technically Peter isn't an extra-terrestrial, so what she said is true from a certain point of view.
It might depend on her idea of "recently." Perhaps 1988 (Yondu picking Peter up) and therefore 1980 (when Peter's father would have to be one Earth) were too old to be "recent." Or maybe she was only counting what she thought were relevant extraterrestrial visits.
Of course, we're assuming she was being up-front and honest with the group. Or that she had accurate information. It could be everything from Heimdall not telling her, to Sif making a determination not to reveal certain instances of extraterrestrial visits.
Of course, we're assuming she was being up-front and honest with the group. Or that she had accurate information. It could be everything from Heimdall not telling her, to Sif making a determination not to reveal certain instances of extraterrestrial visits.
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True. I'm forgetting that Sif said that in response to Coulson's inquiry after he discovered G.H.
Marvel released the dancing baby Groot scene in its entirety.
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That scene gets me every time. The joy they captured on that little tree's face just makes me break out with the biggest smile.