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Grimm - Season 4

So, I'm supposed to respect Juliette for not telling Nick about her Hexenbiest side-effect?

After all they have seen and done together this is suddenly a step too far? I would be far more interested in them hashing it out than seeing Juliette spend more private time with Nick's boss. I'm annoyed.

Right. It's gratuitous to have her keep it secret. The only way it'll be justified, maybe, is if it turns out that there's some evil Hexenbiest spirit inside her that's taking her over and making her keep it secret. Although that's hard to reconcile with her turning to Renard for help.

I was just thinking something along these lines as I was driving in to work today. I'm so glad that other fans are as annoyed as I am by this "big secret" nonsense. Uh, why exactly does this need to be a secret? And why isn't she all, "hey, now I can kick Adalind's ass!" which was my first thought when she first woged.

Points given for making the solution to getting Nick's Grimm powers back something that has lots of apparent consequences tied to it, but points taken away for manufactured angst. We've seen this team grow so much over the past couple of years that this storyline is too out of character now.
 
Even though I do have issue with the show, I still enjoy it overall, and I'm glad it's been renewed.
 
I liked it.

Nice to see the Mummy as the Wesen of the week. The Manticore still remains one of the biggest threats on the show, Nick still hasn't killed one yet. I see the Council on this show is as ineffective as the Council from Buffy. That cop guarding the cell totally deserved to be skewered like that by Imhotep, Nick flat out told him to stay away from the dangerous guy. The crying trick is the oldest trick in the book! Gets them every time! The writers are really trying hard to make Juliette badass though. I hope they don't forget that this show is called GRIMM.

Episodes with Juliette not telling Nick: 4
 
I liked it.

The writers are really trying hard to make Juliette badass though. I hope they don't forget that this show is called GRIMM.

Episodes with Juliette not telling Nick: 4

As someone who has always enjoyed looking at Bitsy's character, I am looking forward to watching her kick some ass and become a little more complex.

I would be fine if she remained a Hexenbiest for the rest of the show's run. Except, of course, for the obligatory finale conversion back to regular human.

And, I would have preferred that she was a regular Hexenbiest instead of the most badass one around. I suppose it is pro forma to make her Uber-Hexenbiest.
 
I really don't like the way this is going. For one thing, it's now clear that they're going to continue the stupid "Juliette can't tell Nick" routine, and for the stupidest of reasons. Since when was there some kind of Grimm instinct that made them any more hostile toward Hexenbiests than any other Wesen? Since when was Nick incapable of overcoming the Grimm habit of killing Wesen? And why is nobody even talking about the obvious solution of having Juliette drink some of Nick's blood? That robbed Adalind of her powers easily enough, yet nobody seems to remember that it happened. (And yes, sure, the writers could contrive an excuse for why it wouldn't work this time, but the point is that they haven't even acknowledged the possibility, which makes the characters seem stupid and forgetful.)

Not to mention that Bitsie Tulloch is rather beautiful and Hexenbiests are really disgustingly hideous. I don't like seeing that done to her face. Why couldn't she have turned into a cute Wesen like Rosalee does?
 
The Juliette storyline is turing into the Grimm version of The Dark Phoenix Saga, I hope that doesn't mean they'll kill her off. But giving Nick and Juliette puts them on better footings with the Wesen. I thought it was funny though when Juliette's new powers caused the pepper grinder to hit her head. :guffaw:
 
And why is nobody even talking about the obvious solution of having Juliette drink some of Nick's blood? That robbed Adalind of her powers easily enough, yet nobody seems to remember that it happened. (And yes, sure, the writers could contrive an excuse for why it wouldn't work this time, but the point is that they haven't even acknowledged the possibility, which makes the characters seem stupid and forgetful.)

Not to mention that Bitsie Tulloch is rather beautiful and Hexenbiests are really disgustingly hideous. I don't like seeing that done to her face. Why couldn't she have turned into a cute Wesen like Rosalee does?

No one is talking about the obvious solution since Juliette is stupidly keeping what happened to her a secret. I imagine Nick or Rosalee will immediately mention the Grimm blood thing once they find out about Julliette.

But Renard knows about the blood thing, since he was there when Adalind was depowered. He might have his own agenda though.

I think the show chickened out by making Rosalee's Wesen form a cute monster girl. I think it is refreshing to see the female lead have any ugly form, since in these type of fantasy shows it is usually a beautiful female in an relationship with an with ugly male. Or more commonly a fat stupid husband with beautiful wife in countless sitcoms.

Renard and Adalind rivals Nick and Julliete as the most attractive couple on this show though.
 
The Juliette storyline is turing into the Grimm version of The Dark Phoenix Saga, I hope that doesn't mean they'll kill her off. But giving Nick and Juliette puts them on better footings with the Wesen. I thought it was funny though when Juliette's new powers caused the pepper grinder to hit her head. :guffaw:

In order for this to be the Dark Phoenix Saga, Juliette has to kill off an entire roomful of innocent people. I certainly don't know that is going to happen, since Nick will be forced to take her down as a cop. That isn't the direction that I want this season to go.

I really hope they tone done Juliette's power levels if they decided to keep her as a Hexenbiest. If not, you might as well have Juliette solving all the problems for Nick. Juliette is dangerously close to overshadowing Nick right now as a character.
 
Watching the original depowering in season one, I assumed that Adaline lost her powers and her wessen nature, because they seemed like the same thing, and we didn't see her volge after she lost her powers.

I'm pretty sure that someone said "You lost it" or word to that effect that suddenly she was completely human.

It's not possible, but maybe Adalind lost her magic powers while still being some kind of Wessen after drinking Nick's Blood? Nick's blood therefore is not the cureall that Juliet is after?
 
It's not possible, but maybe Adalind lost her magic powers while still being some kind of Wessen after drinking Nick's Blood? Nick's blood therefore is not the cureall that Juliet is after?

I believe Adalind was made a human after drinking Nick's blood. We never saw her woge into a Hexenbiest until after she gave birth to her baby. It did look like Adalind had to steal another Hexenbiest's spirit to be turned back into one though.

But Adalind as a human was still able to create a curse to put Juliette in a coma, so magic potions can apparently be done by anyone as long as you know the recipe.
 
Which is why I said what I said is not possible.

However, the writers/producers can ignore previous lore, rewriting history to make the impossible possible.
 
However, the writers/producers can ignore previous lore, rewriting history to make the impossible possible.

Well, this is the first time we learning things about a human turned into a Wesen. We don't know all the rules yet. Let's hope the writers have figured that part out already! :lol:
 
No one is talking about the obvious solution since Juliette is stupidly keeping what happened to her a secret.

Not from Renard or from the expert he sent Juliette to see. The latter should most likely have known about the possibility, yet she unambiguously said that it was impossible for Juliette to ever change back.


Well, this is the first time we learning things about a human turned into a Wesen. We don't know all the rules yet. Let's hope the writers have figured that part out already! :lol:

I have no faith in these writers' advance planning abilities. This show has been meandering with little direction or focus for the past two seasons.
 
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