Green Lantern Series

[shivkala]

Well consider what Johns did for the Rogues, villains with not much more going for them than GL's villains. My point is that I'd rather he face those guys, as lame as they might be, than once again face other Corps, which is pretty much all Hal's done in one shape or another since right before the Sinestro Corps War (he fought the Sapphires, then the Sinestro Corps, then the Red Lanterns, then Larfleeze, then the Black Lanterns, then all of them, then their entities, then his fellow Lanterns, then the Sinestro Corps again with the help of Sinestro, and now the Indigo Tribe). I'll settle for a lame-ass villain with tuning fork gun or a helmet with a giant magnet on it!

 

[Icemizer]

The green rings are powered by the will of the user and lets them tap into the main green power battery which collects the will of the guardians and are not connected to any emotion.
When the guardians and Zamorans seperated the Guardians also removed most of their emotions and sought out a pure non emotional power source within themselves to use to power the rings. Will Power was the answer as it is emotion free.
The other rings need an emotional component to work. Without Rage, Fear, Hope, etc those rings will not function. This is why Razor was unable to power his ring with the revised wording. There was no Rage behind the words and so it didnt work.
The yellow impurity in the green rings stems from the fact that even the guardians were unable to purge all of the emotional components from their minds and bodies. At the core of their beings there still existed a small amount of fear. So as they charge the main battery with the will of their beings a small amount of fear gets in.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Well consider what Johns did for the Rogues, villains with not much more going for them than GL's villains. My point is that I'd rather he face those guys, as lame as they might be, than once again face other Corps, which is pretty much all Hal's done in one shape or another since right before the Sinestro Corps War (he fought the Sapphires, then the Sinestro Corps, then the Red Lanterns, then Larfleeze, then the Black Lanterns, then all of them, then their entities, then his fellow Lanterns, then the Sinestro Corps again with the help of Sinestro, and now the Indigo Tribe). I'll settle for a lame-ass villain with tuning fork gun or a helmet with a giant magnet on it!

The individual corps are more interesting frankly than Polaris or Sonar. The whole point of GL is cosmic level threats. The same for Nova at Marvel. Trying to bring back the Silver Age stuff is trying to put the genie back into the bottle. It won't work.

If the Corps things is getting tiresome, they can move onto other cosmic threats. However making Goldface or Polaris into major GL villains again is just a devolution like destroying the corps was in the 90s. It's just no longer possible anymore than a corrupt senator or a regular crook is going to be in Superman or Batman's rogues gallery again in the current age.

 

[shivkala]

Okay, I see your point, however, GL doesn't just deal with cosmic threats and I would argue that some conflicts with the lower tier villains would serve as a contrast to the more major threats. The problem with GL constantly facing massive cosmic threats is that you can only keep that up for so long before it becomes tiresome, unless it is done really, really well, as Marvel Cosmic did from Annhilation through The Thanos Imperative). Part of the reason that worked out so well was that Nova got to stay out in space and visit Earth when his story brought him here. He wasn't in, say the Avengers (with the exception of the first arc of Secret Avengers) and expected to be involved in everything going on with them AND in his own title.

As for the show, using the Red Lanterns makes sense, since, again, Hal isn't tied to the Justice League and having to fight both the Red Lanterns and be on Earth for all of their battles.

 

[Disruptor]

Summary of this week's episode: An exiled Guardian activates the Blue Light Special which offers a major discount on ass-whooping.

Nice they acknowledge Ian Abercrombie's passing with a dedication. Odd that the song they dedicated to him was 50 Cent's "In Da Club".

 

[Hartzilla2007]

So there's an army of Green Lanterns 18 months away from intercepting the Red Lanters and for that 18 months Oa is defenseless.

I smell a new enemy introduction coming.

 

[Gotham Central]

So there's an army of Green Lanterns 18 months away from intercepting the Red Lanters and for that 18 months Oa is defenseless.

I smell a new enemy introduction coming.

Given all the yellow crystals its a good bet that Sinestro will make his appearance at the end of the season.

Its also a good bet that the blue lantern will go and seek out Saint Walker and thus the blue lantern corp is born.

 

[JD]

Yeah, lots of very interesting set ups for future stories in this episode.

 

[Icemizer]

Did anyone else find it annoying how easily the red lanterns were able to destroy the green lantern constructs? Just a minor quibble in what I thought was a pretty good episode.

 

[Silvercrest]

"Sorry, Hal Jordan, I must gotta take this". Click.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Did anyone else find it annoying how easily the red lanterns were able to destroy the green lantern constructs? Just a minor quibble in what I thought was a pretty good episode.

The Reds are stronger in that they are almost berserkers who aren't really holding back.

 

[Christopher]

Kilowog doesn't strike me as the sort to hold back.

The real reason is that it was dramatically necessary for the heroes to be outmatched and on the verge of losing so that Ganthet's Blue-Lantern gift would be needed to save the day.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Did anyone else find it annoying how easily the red lanterns were able to destroy the green lantern constructs? Just a minor quibble in what I thought was a pretty good episode.

It bugged me a little but then again the good guys need to be a bit outmatched. I don't want it to be too easy for them or there's not much suspense.

 

[shivkala]

With the introduction of the rings, they created certain aspects of the rings. Some of it seems to be at play in this series (such as Blue supercharing Green).

From memory:

• Red: Replaces the wearer's heart with a napalm-like red energy which can burn through almost anything (including Green constructs). The Blue ring is the only thing that can reverse the effects of the Red ring on its user.
• Orange: Takes over the wearer and gives them an insatiable desire for, well, everything. The Blue ring seemed to also aid in protecting Hal Jordan from the Orange ring's effects
• Yellow: Due to the fact that its entity, Parallax, was imprisoned in the Green Power Battery, it created a weakness in the Green rings. This can be overcome by overcoming fear. It makes some sense, since fear can and often does override willpower.
• Green: The central color, and therefore, the one that exerts the least power over its users. The Lanterns are in control of the rings, unlike the Red Lanterns, at the far end of the spectrum, in which the ring seems to take over (in the comic, at least).
• Blue: Fairly useless on its own as a weapon, but powerful enough to reignite dying stars, bring life to planets, and, as mentioned, supercharge the Green rings. It becomes more useful when around the Green rings, since hope, without the willpower to make it come through, is fairly useless on its own. As mentioned, it can restore an individual who had been taken over by a Red ring, returning them to normal and restoring their heart. Characters, such as Guy Gardner, who wore Red rings, can find other ways to recover from a Red ring, but only the Blue ring's energy is enough to effect a permanent cure.
• Indigo: Mostly unknown as it its effects, except it can channel the other colors/powers. As recently revealed, it can replicate the power, but does not actually draw the real power through them (Hal found out that a charge from an Indigo Lantern channeling Green only allows for basic constructs, and no flight or defense capabilities). More will be revealed soon.
• Violet/Sapphire: As a crystal it also overtook its user and forced them to do things against their choice. As a ring, it seems the users have more control. The rings can create sapphire crystals to imprison others in. These have been used to attempt to turn Sinestro Lanterns into Sapphires.

 

[Admiral2]

With the introduction of the rings, they created certain aspects of the rings. Some of it seems to be at play in this series (such as Blue supercharing Green).

From memory:

• Red: Replaces the wearer's heart with a napalm-like red energy which can burn through almost anything (including Green constructs). The Blue ring is the only thing that can reverse the effects of the Red ring on its user.
• Orange: Takes over the wearer and gives them an insatiable desire for, well, everything. The Blue ring seemed to also aid in protecting Hal Jordan from the Orange ring's effects
• Yellow: Due to the fact that its entity, Parallax, was imprisoned in the Green Power Battery, it created a weakness in the Green rings. This can be overcome by overcoming fear. It makes some sense, since fear can and often does override willpower.
• Green: The central color, and therefore, the one that exerts the least power over its users. The Lanterns are in control of the rings, unlike the Red Lanterns, at the far end of the spectrum, in which the ring seems to take over (in the comic, at least).
• Blue: Fairly useless on its own as a weapon, but powerful enough to reignite dying stars, bring life to planets, and, as mentioned, supercharge the Green rings. It becomes more useful when around the Green rings, since hope, without the willpower to make it come through, is fairly useless on its own. As mentioned, it can restore an individual who had been taken over by a Red ring, returning them to normal and restoring their heart. Characters, such as Guy Gardner, who wore Red rings, can find other ways to recover from a Red ring, but only the Blue ring's energy is enough to effect a permanent cure.
• Indigo: Mostly unknown as it its effects, except it can channel the other colors/powers. As recently revealed, it can replicate the power, but does not actually draw the real power through them (Hal found out that a charge from an Indigo Lantern channeling Green only allows for basic constructs, and no flight or defense capabilities). More will be revealed soon.
• Violet/Sapphire: As a crystal it also overtook its user and forced them to do things against their choice. As a ring, it seems the users have more control. The rings can create sapphire crystals to imprison others in. These have been used to attempt to turn Sinestro Lanterns into Sapphires.

Think of all the great rings Geoff Johns has denied us by sticking to the standard rainbow:

Mauve: Has the power to compel grown men to pick out china patterns and love showtunes. "Beware my fierceness, (snap!) Mauve Lantern's light!"

Peuce: Ring: "Irving Forbush, your looks have the power to induce great nausea..."

Plaid: Only those who play bagpipes and wear kilts are eligible to join the Plaid Lantern Corps.

Robin's Egg White: Only distinguishable from White Lanterns by middle-aged housewives who read Good Housekeeping and watch Martha Stewart living religiously.



I long for the days when Green Lantern meant green rings, yellow impurity, the bad guy has a yellow ring and that was friggin' it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

And that the Star Sapphire was a tiara?

 

[Hound of UIster]

The reinvention of the mythology has been the chief reason why GL has his own cartoon and movie and why he is selling better than he ever did in the past 30 years.

I long for the days when Green Lantern meant green rings, yellow impurity, the bad guy has a yellow ring and that was friggin' it.

So you want the days back when Green Lantern could be beaten by a guy wearing a yellow jacket?

Why do you hate Green Lantern?

 

[Christopher]

The "yellow impurity" thing was silly, but the "emotional spectrum" stuff is equally silly. Why the hell would emotions be color-coded? How the hell do emotions constitute cosmic power sources? It's hokey and heavy-handed, and feels like pure fairy-tale magic rather than the science fiction (however fanciful) that inspired the creation of the Green Lantern Corps and associated mythos in the Silver Age.

 

[Hound of UIster]

Yes because cosmic energy giving people super powers instead of radiation sickness is so science fiction instead of pure rubbish fantasy. As is the giant human guy who eats the life forces of planets.

 

[Admiral2]

The reinvention of the mythology has been the chief reason why GL has his own cartoon and movie and why he is selling better than he ever did in the past 30 years.

I long for the days when Green Lantern meant green rings, yellow impurity, the bad guy has a yellow ring and that was friggin' it.

So you want the days back when Green Lantern could be beaten by a guy wearing a yellow jacket?

Green ring picks up grey cement block, drops it on guy's head and he falls, getting blood and brains on yellow jacket. The problem forces superpowerful hero to think for a minute.

Why do you hate Green Lantern?

That's just it. I don't hate Green Lantern. Green Lantern was always my favorite DC hero, all the way back to the Superfriends days. What I hate is seeing the comics series turned into the Mood Ring Soap Opera comic that's been inflicted on us over these recent years.

And that the Star Sapphire was a tiara?

Least it wasn't a purple mood ring...