"Green Lantern" concept art...

[Broccoli]

No, but I did watch Peter Pan and the Pirates.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Literal translations of old comic book drawings = silly looking movie. Of course they need concept art; there's no other way to work out practical designs.

It'd be like taking the 1966 version of the Enterprise and using it in a huge contemporary version of the show - uh-uh.

Bad example, since you know damn well that a huge group of people here are now saying, "Ummm, what's wrong with that? "

Huge group? Nah - around here, maybe a dozen vocal types.

Good example, since the people actually charged with making such decisions knew better and made a more successful choice. Same would be true with any competent group making these movies, and therefore is to be expected here.

 

[Nerys Myk]

One thing I do hope they change is to give the GL uniform a belt or some pockets or something. Much as I love GL and GLC, they all look vaguely silly wearing skin-tight spandex without any pockets whatsoever.

GL should still be aerodynamic. But please, no green swimsuit pattern over black tights. Even the comic books have eliminated that costume design.

And ruined the balance of the costume in the process.

 

[Broccoli]

Literal translations of old comic book drawings = silly looking movie. Of course they need concept art; there's no other way to work out practical designs.

It'd be like taking the 1966 version of the Enterprise and using it in a huge contemporary version of the show - uh-uh.

Bad example, since you know damn well that a huge group of people here are now saying, "Ummm, what's wrong with that? "

Huge group? Nah - around here, maybe a dozen vocal types.

Good example, since the people actually charged with making such decisions knew better and made a more successful choice. Same would be true with any competent group making these movies, and therefore is to be expected here.

Eh...though I like the NuEnterprise, if the filmmakers used the same design from the original show, the movie probably would have still been successful.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

...if the filmmakers used the same design from the original show...

But they didn't and wouldn't have - only fans would. That's the point.

 

[Broccoli]

...if the filmmakers used the same design from the original show...

But they didn't and wouldn't have - only fans would. That's the point.

You claimed it was a "more successful choice" to which I think it would have made no difference in the end. That is my point. Like viewing the NuEnt, fans would have noticed (either "Hey, it's different" or "Hey, it's the same"), but the average movie goer would have been indifferent towards it.

 

[Bad Bishop]

One thing I do hope they change is to give the GL uniform a belt or some pockets or something. Much as I love GL and GLC, they all look vaguely silly wearing skin-tight spandex without any pockets whatsoever.

GL should still be aerodynamic. But please, no green swimsuit pattern over black tights. Even the comic books have eliminated that costume design.

And ruined the balance of the costume in the process.

That's another way of looking at it. Green Lantern's costume designer (the name escapes me) won an Oscar for LOTR. She'll figure something out.

 

[Anwar]

The GL uniforms are generated by the ring, right? Maybe they can keep changing as the movies goes on depending on the wearer's mood. The GL symbol would be the only constant.

 

[Broccoli]

Lots of superhero costumes could look silly in live action, but, for the most part, Hollywood has done a good job at keeping the basics of a costume, but giving it some adaptation for it to look good and not as "silly". GL is in a position to not set the trend, but rather see what has worked and not worked and go from there.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I like the Kane designed costume in comics. For a movie, I'm open to other interpretations.

 

[stonester1]

Literal translations of old comic book drawings = silly looking movie. Of course they need concept art; there's no other way to work out practical designs.

It'd be like taking the 1966 version of the Enterprise and using it in a huge contemporary version of the show - uh-uh.

Bad example, since you know damn well that a huge group of people here are now saying, "Ummm, what's wrong with that? "

Huge group? Nah - around here, maybe a dozen vocal types.

Good example, since the people actually charged with making such decisions knew better and made a more successful choice. Same would be true with any competent group making these movies, and therefore is to be expected here.

Love the new Trek movie, love the Nu-Ent design, BUT...the success of the film isn't due to the ship design. The original ship design is a classic and I don't think there is anything about it that would have taken the uninitiated out of the movie, had they stuck with the original design.

The producers of the new film went with a new design, which worked...but the film would probably have been just as successful had they stuck with the original design, or something closer to it.

 

[Skywalker]

The original ship would have been laughed off the screen, I'm sorry to say.

 

[Checkmate]

The producers of the new film went with a new design, which worked...but the film would probably have been just as successful had they stuck with the original design, or something closer to it.

You don't get to have your cake and eat it, too. You either use the original design or you do not.

And, for the record, they did use a design close to the original. Just not one that was as goofy and tacky as the actual original, especially in this day of HD televisions and movie screens.

A piece of cheap white plastic wobbling around on strings and with a satellite dish glued on to the front would most definitely have been ridiculed to Hell and back. Even the movie version is pretty eyeroll-worthy. Personal nostalgia notwithstanding.

 

[stonester1]

A piece of cheap white plastic wobbling around on strings and with a satellite dish glued on to the front

I think both Enterprise and the retouched TOS eps have proven that the original design doesn't have to appear as such.

Sure, the new design was "close", but for the sake of argument, it could have been "closer". I've seen the designs.

 

[Broccoli]

The NuEnt could have been a talking taco that crapped ice cream and the movie would have been just as successful. It is misguided to think the design of the ship is what helped make the movie successful.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

It's misguided to think that cut-and-paste design would have been acceptable. So, too, with making fifty year old comic book drawings into costumes.

 

[stonester1]

Nothing wrong with "cut n' paste", if what you are "cutting n' pasting" is good.

Nor is it virtuous to redesign just because you can.

"Its old," in itself, is not an impetus to go back to the drawing board. Sometimes "its old" also means "its classic". Its not necessary to fuck with classics.

AGAIN, loved the new Trek movie, and had no problem with the Ent redesign. But I do contend that the original design would have been just fine, had they gone with that.

 

[Broccoli]

It's misguided to think that cut-and-paste design would have been acceptable. So, too, with making fifty year old comic book drawings into costumes.

Just because you would have found it unacceptable, doesn't mean it would have been. You should look at your signature for advice. You are working off a false assumption that if they decided to use the TOS Ent, it would look like a cheesy studio prop from the 60s. Undoubtedly, it would have been rendered using the same technology that made the NuEnt.

To get this thread back on topic: look at Spider-Man. Chances are, they could have had a completely different suit for Spidey in the first movie, and it would still have been successful. However, the producers choose to use the original suit with some extra detail on it to make it look a passable in live action world. Did this appease fanboys. Probably so. Did it make or break the movie? Probably not.

Another example: Batman. In each movie, Batman wears a suit that, while having the same general outline, looks different from the one(s) in the comics. Also, the uniformed changed from movie to movie (and, in three cases, within the movie)! Did people avoid or flock to see the movies based on this? No.

In the case for Green Lantern, I suspect that there will be a mixture of both. Since the GL uniforms are different for each GL, they can go in a few different routes. I do suspect, however, that it will be green, black, and have the GL logo somewhere on it. Even if it doesn't have any of that, if the movie has a fun, entertaining story, people won't care what the hell Hal is wearing.

 

[stonester1]

Just because you would have found it unacceptable, doesn't mean it would have been. You should look at your signature for advice. You are working off a false assumption that if they decided to use the TOS Ent, it would look like a cheesy studio prop from the 60s. Undoubtedly, it would have been rendered using the same technology that made the NuEnt.

Quoted for truth.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

You should look at your signature for advice.

Eh? They didn't do it wrong, and I liked it fine.

The TOS ship wouldn't have cut it, which is why it wasn't used. And these folks will make the Green Lantern outfits look as cool as necessary, I'm sure.