Grade - The Daedalus Variations – (Grading, SPOILERS!)

[Jono]

1 ZPM, mainly because I like the 304s.

Don't get how the first team died or why they all died next to each other.

 

[sidious618]

That is true and so far the cries of "lazy writing" aren't as loud as this season so maybe that's something.

Really? So far this season seems to be the least well recieved that I've seen.

 

[DWF]

That is true and so far the cries of "lazy writing" aren't as loud as this season so maybe that's something.

Really? So far this season seems to be the least well recieved that I've seen.

Not compared to the complaints from last season and I think that part of that last season was about Cater replacing Weir, Woolsey has made a difference this season.

 

[Captain Shaw]

Best ep so far hope to see thoses aliens again.
Is next week ep the shine? I have been waiting for that one.

 

[DWF]

Best ep so far hope to see thoses aliens again.
Is next week ep the shine? I have been waiting for that one.

The next ep. is in two weeks because of the Olympics.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

Screw it, I'm so sick of this kind of crap, I voted horrible. They take the parallel universe concept - which opens up a vast range of possibilities - and do only the least imaginative things imaginable. Feh!

Perhaps it's a sign of how bad I thought the last few were, but I actually thought this episode was Above Average for the season. Although the Shep talking to himself thing was annoying, and I thought the fact they had to add a ticking clock (the drive burning out) to their already ticking clock(getting further and further away from "home" without supplies) was stupid. But overall at least it was enjoyable.

 

[Etched]

Best ep so far hope to see thoses aliens again.
Is next week ep the shine? I have been waiting for that one.

There's a break next week for the Olympics as DWF has pointed out but the week after that is Ghost In The Machine - The Shrine airs 22nd of August.

 

[sidious618]

Okay, I finally got a chance to watch and I have to say that I loved it. Far and away better than the crap they've been feeding us these past few weeks.

This episode was pure fun and I loved the reality jumping. The new ship and aliens looked cool. I was expecting the ending to be Shepperd saying, "If there are those aliens in that reality that means they could be here." And then he looks around with that look (you know which one) and we hear "BUM BUM BUM!" But Rodney and the baby was fine and I liked that he dropped it.

Anyhow I give it a ZPM.

 

[hxclespaulplayer]

Best ep since season 3

 

[USS Kongo]

Now that's more like it. An enjoyable episode that introduced an interesting alien threat. Wonder if those guys will show up in the Atlantis Prime universe?

Sean

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Don't get how the first team died or why they all died next to each other.

The 'dead' team basically starved. They came aboard just like Our Heroes did - the Daedalus arrived in their universe, and they went aboard to check it out. Just like we saw with our people.

However, their McKay apparently never figured out what was going on, and they all died when the provisions ran out.

(As for why they were near each other? They surely knew they were dying, and I doubt any of them wanted to die alone.)

 

[cylkoth]

Don't get how the first team died or why they all died next to each other.

The 'dead' team basically starved. They came aboard just like Our Heroes did - the Daedalus arrived in their universe, and they went aboard to check it out. Just like we saw with our people.

However, their McKay apparently never figured out what was going on, and they all died when the provisions ran out.

Oy..must stop over thinking! But, wouldn't there have been an Asgard core onboard?

 

[Jax]

Don't get how the first team died or why they all died next to each other.

The 'dead' team basically starved. They came aboard just like Our Heroes did - the Daedalus arrived in their universe, and they went aboard to check it out. Just like we saw with our people.

However, their McKay apparently never figured out what was going on, and they all died when the provisions ran out.

Oy..must stop over thinking! But, wouldn't there have been an Asgard core onboard?

No only Asgard core is on USAF Odyssey and I have another reason to dislike China, they making me wait 2 weeks for SG-A

 

[broberfett]

Don't get how the first team died or why they all died next to each other.

The 'dead' team basically starved. They came aboard just like Our Heroes did - the Daedalus arrived in their universe, and they went aboard to check it out. Just like we saw with our people.

However, their McKay apparently never figured out what was going on, and they all died when the provisions ran out.

(As for why they were near each other? They surely knew they were dying, and I doubt any of them wanted to die alone.)

I think either Rodney or Ronin would have eaten his buddies if he was dying. So we would have found all of them dead, but one would have been fairly fresh while the others would have been gnawed bones.

 

[Jono]

The 'dead' team basically starved. They came aboard just like Our Heroes did - the Daedalus arrived in their universe, and they went aboard to check it out. Just like we saw with our people.

However, their McKay apparently never figured out what was going on, and they all died when the provisions ran out.

Oy..must stop over thinking! But, wouldn't there have been an Asgard core onboard?

No only Asgard core is on USAF Odyssey and I have another reason to dislike China, they making me wait 2 weeks for SG-A

That's right. Ronin didn't seem to have any luck finding supplies so it makes sense with no water they wouldn't have lasted long. That begs the question as to why they just did not abandon the ship in their jumper before they died.

I did not mean that it was odd they died together, I meant it was the layout of their bodies that I found odd.

Not sure about that because if you look in engineering (or wherever Mackay was) you can see an Asgard Core behind him. It's that long curved white lit console he never touches.

Just because they had a core doesn't mean they could "replicate" food as SG-1 did since it happened in a different timeline, one which only Teal'c remembers. Mackay is smart but maybe he just never figured it out since he would have spent his time consumed by the parallel drive. Then again given the damage to the ship it might be that the relevant systems just were damaged beyond repair.

 

[cylkoth]

Arg! Over thinking part deux ....Transporters? Dead team could've beamed up water and food/vegetation from the planet to survive???
And don't tell me this version of the Daedalus wouldn't have had Asgard beaming tech...

 

[broberfett]

Arg! Over thinking part deux ....Transporters? Dead team could've beamed up water and food/vegetation from the planet to survive???
And don't tell me this version of the Daedalus wouldn't have had Asgard beaming tech...

After years of Trek, I thought of that pretty fast. No long journey off the potentially disappearing ship, just some scanning and then you've got it.

 

[NoImpulseEngine]

Lost of fun I'll vote Above Average. Lots of entertainment, loved the huge red Sun but some of it was predictable so it loses marks. Monsters looked a bit too Borgish and the show had no Woolsey or Jewel Staite

 

[Jax]

Heres what SyFy Portal had to say in there weekly review...

What Worked...

Overall, I would call this a fun filler episode, one that has the potential to be so much more than that, possibly even SGA's version of Star Trek: TNG's "Q Who?" by introducing a new big bad for the future. But it remains to be seen if that will happen.

I liked how everyone on the team got to do something. It was interesting seeing Teyla knowing the ships controls so well, while Ronon ... well, not so much. Which lead to the awesome Chewie reference. I like that they had Major Marks teach Teyla, but I probably feel that way because his name reminds me of my first name.

Sometimes Teyla and Ronon can seem almost too much like, both of them being tough alien warriors, but this episode spotlighted a major contrast between their personalities and skills.

I liked the scene where our Sheppard talked to an alternate version of Sheppard and they both kept complimenting themselves. Another interesting choice was the team learning that this version of the ship had a female commander named Col. Sobrol. I wonder if we will ever meet a version of her in the SGA's reality?

Also, the team finding dead versions of themselves was a nice touch to help ramp up the tension.

We also saw the many sides of McKay. Overly confident, freaking out and even a touching moment where he tries to comfort Teyla when he told her he would make sure this wasn't her last mission. Of course, the whole 'holding the baby' arc in the episode was classic McKay fun.

I hear that the VFX budget was pretty high for this episode, and I can believe it. That space battle was pretty cool. SGA has some of the best space battles on TV. Really, only "Battlestar Galactica" can top them.

The fact that the ship is still bouncing around universe leaves open an interesting possibility of someone finding their way back to SGA's universe. I wonder if they will do anything with that?

Didn't Work...

Where the heck was Mr. Woolsey? Yes, I know he probably wasn't contracted for this episode and they probably wanted to save money by not giving him airtime when he wasn't really needed for the episode, but would it hurt to give us a one liner explaining where he is? This was done way too often with Carter. I was hoping the writers would have learned from it.

I really like the possibilities introduced with these aliens, but I haven't seen any hints that they will be back this season. But, then again I think the Borg didn't return to Star Trek until the season after they were introduced. Could the SGA writers have something similar planned? Still, it would have been nice to learn something more about these aliens.

I think humans are smart and all that. Heck, I'll even quote the almost unknown "The Secret Adventures of Jules Verne" and say that "I believe in science!" But Stargate may be getting a little carried away with the technological leaps that the Stargate folks are coming up with. The fact that McKay was so easily able to learn how the drive worked, which apparently a duplicate of him may have created, and now apparently could duplicate it with ease (bad pun intended). It felt a little unlikely to me, but of course leaves open future episodes with alternate possibility wackiness.

Honestly, I liked the classic SG-1 where you had skilled humans from modern day Earth trying to figure out how these alien artifacts worked. I'm a little worried that Stargate is taking too much of that feel away and replacing it with Star Trek technobabble and quick fixes.

Overall...

Overall, this was very fast-paced and felt a little like a classic "Stargate SG-1" episode. I hope they do something in the future with the alien race, which would turn this from a filler to a "must watch

 

[Jono]

Arg! Over thinking part deux ....Transporters? Dead team could've beamed up water and food/vegetation from the planet to survive???
And don't tell me this version of the Daedalus wouldn't have had Asgard beaming tech...

The ship was heavily damaged, it had no hyperdrive and sublight fell pretty easily. Not hard to imagine that beaming was offline.