I liked how that interaction could be seen two ways... Hitting on her? Or just really concerned for the filing system?
Gotham - Season 1
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I'd say it was clearly both. He did overtly say "I want you" and then walked it back by very awkwardly extending the sentence. But he expects her to appreciate the same things he appreciates, such as creative problem-solving.
I'm not familiar with a DC character named Kristin Kringle.\
But, yes, I thought this was one of the best episodes so far. I hate to say it, but maybe that's because Bullock is actually more interesting than Gordon?
And it kept me guessing. At times, I thought there might actually be a genuine demonic/occult thing going on . . . .
Haven't finished watching it yet but from the open scenes I'm wondering it seems there was a time when Harvey Bullock was sort of person Jim Gordon is now but was worn down by Gotham's corruption.
Okay, so that was better. Although I wonder if by revealing Oswald already the show is kinda jumping the shark?
Why would you wonder that?
Call it intuition or something.
Okay. I guess. That's weird.
Feels like the show is finding its groove now. I agree with the poster above who said that Bullock is a more interesting character than Gordon. His "I'm always in a room full of idiots" line was great. Also loved the fact that he was actually shown to be a good detective.
I liked the hypnotherapist plot as well, and I also noted how she touched Bullock, which should prove interesting down the road. I also thought the show would have the villain go after Bruce to shoehorn him into the plot, so I'm glad they didn't do that. I did like the little scene between him and Selina though. Sometimes when they include these bits they feel really forced, but I thought that was quite a sweet scene.
Nygma is just...I don't know. He's not really working for me. He just seems to be in the show for the sake of having him in the show at the moment. He's certainly not as captivating as Cobblepot, who again stole the show at the end. I am curious as to his motives for revealing himself though, maybe he feels like he and Gordon are safe from Falcone since they're 'in' with Maroni?
I liked the hypnotherapist plot as well, and I also noted how she touched Bullock, which should prove interesting down the road. I also thought the show would have the villain go after Bruce to shoehorn him into the plot, so I'm glad they didn't do that. I did like the little scene between him and Selina though. Sometimes when they include these bits they feel really forced, but I thought that was quite a sweet scene.
Nygma is just...I don't know. He's not really working for me. He just seems to be in the show for the sake of having him in the show at the moment. He's certainly not as captivating as Cobblepot, who again stole the show at the end. I am curious as to his motives for revealing himself though, maybe he feels like he and Gordon are safe from Falcone since they're 'in' with Maroni?
I think it's mainly because Ben Edlund is a better writer than anyone else on the show's staff. If Gordon hasn't been interesting yet, it's because the writers haven't made him interesting yet. I didn't find Bullock interesting until this week either, because until now he was just a one-note caricature.
I guessed pretty early that Susan Misner's character would be the culprit, because the biggest-name guest actor is almost always the killer. It had to be either her or Dan Hedaya. And there was no reason to include the therapist character unless she had some greater significance.
Jim is no good to him in jail, and Jim is no good to him if Maroni has Jim's balls on a keychain.
I think the critical scene here was Oswald in the bathtub, not the part with mom, but him just sitting and staring with an evil grin. He has thought this whole thing through and has a plan. We just don't quite know what it is yet.
I appreciate Christopher's comment, how did he know to arrive at that moment? But this may be a case where it really was a co-incidence. Oswald needs Jim free of Maroni. Oswald wants Falcone and Fish taken down. He really needs all three gangsters taken down so that he can fill the void. With one step through a door he has set things up so that Jim must take out Falcone and Fish for him.
Taking them out may take time, it may take several seasons, it may take a decade, but Oswald has broken the stalemate.
though am not sure if the writers wanted it to come of that like. Next week's trailer looked a little like a season finale never mind episode 7 of 22 
I wouldn't say that they've jumped the shark. The correct term is probably blowing their wad. They're using up some dramatic moments that they might have prolonged a bit. This show has to be all about foresight, since it's going to be something like 15 years before Bruce becomes Batman.
Jim has to lose, too. He can't beat Penguin, he can't be Falcone, he can't beat Maroni, he can't beat Riddler, etc. The only ones that he can really "beat" are Fish Mooney because she's original, and Victor Zsasz because if this show really is "supposed" to be in continuity with the Nolan films Mr. Zsasz is in Arkham during Batman Begins.
This is an awfully long time to wait. They might have had the Wayne's killing be a flashback and gone cold, then jumped a couple years ahead in the first episode with Jim getting a lead.
The show is doing a great job of straddling comic and serious. That campy show from the 60s seems like it's never going to leave the public consciousness, and people seem to expect funny stuff from Batman. At least here the gags are pretty good; we get people going splat, Harvey repeatedly getting knocked around by perps and Oswald just being Oswald.
What I feel is too obnoxious is how the beat us over the head with stuff, especially in the pilot. Every other shot seemed to be "OMG! This is Penguin! Watch him waddle! Notice that he uses a penguin-themed alias!", "OMG! This is Riddler! Look at the question marks! Look at them! See how he makes lots of riddles?!", "OMG! This is Catwoman! She looks just like a young Michelle Pfeiffer!", "OMG! This is the Joker! He's making jokes!", "OMG! Poison Ivy! She's standing next to plants! And now she's standing next to more plants!"
I like the more subtle nods, like how they did with the venom. That also sets up the timing of Bane's origin nicely without beating us over the head with it.
Jim has to lose, too. He can't beat Penguin, he can't be Falcone, he can't beat Maroni, he can't beat Riddler, etc. The only ones that he can really "beat" are Fish Mooney because she's original, and Victor Zsasz because if this show really is "supposed" to be in continuity with the Nolan films Mr. Zsasz is in Arkham during Batman Begins.
This is an awfully long time to wait. They might have had the Wayne's killing be a flashback and gone cold, then jumped a couple years ahead in the first episode with Jim getting a lead.
The show is doing a great job of straddling comic and serious. That campy show from the 60s seems like it's never going to leave the public consciousness, and people seem to expect funny stuff from Batman. At least here the gags are pretty good; we get people going splat, Harvey repeatedly getting knocked around by perps and Oswald just being Oswald.
What I feel is too obnoxious is how the beat us over the head with stuff, especially in the pilot. Every other shot seemed to be "OMG! This is Penguin! Watch him waddle! Notice that he uses a penguin-themed alias!", "OMG! This is Riddler! Look at the question marks! Look at them! See how he makes lots of riddles?!", "OMG! This is Catwoman! She looks just like a young Michelle Pfeiffer!", "OMG! This is the Joker! He's making jokes!", "OMG! Poison Ivy! She's standing next to plants! And now she's standing next to more plants!"
I like the more subtle nods, like how they did with the venom. That also sets up the timing of Bane's origin nicely without beating us over the head with it.
I really liked the fact we actually got an episode that gave us some backstory for Bullock. I also liked getting to spend a bit more time with Nygma.
I thought the case was pretty interesting, I didn't see the person behind it coming until they got to the beginning of the reveal.
The end was very intriguing. I am very curious to see exactly Oswald is up to, because it does seem odd that he would reveal himself, and especially at the police station of all places.
I thought the case was pretty interesting, I didn't see the person behind it coming until they got to the beginning of the reveal.
The end was very intriguing. I am very curious to see exactly Oswald is up to, because it does seem odd that he would reveal himself, and especially at the police station of all places.
As soon as he went back to see Mum, he was no longer hiding.
Gambling that Maroni would keep his secret would have been a shitty play.
Besides, if Penguin considers Jim his friend, in his sick mind, and knew that Gordon was in trouble, then this was exactly what was needed to have been done.
Gambling that Maroni would keep his secret would have been a shitty play.
Besides, if Penguin considers Jim his friend, in his sick mind, and knew that Gordon was in trouble, then this was exactly what was needed to have been done.
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