Yeah… no.
Gotham - Season 1
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This.
Yeah, that's ridiculous and just people reading too much into things to find the answers they want.
Is Robin willing to increase 80 pounds over the next 5 years?
Remember Kate Walsh on The Drew Carey Show?
They stuck her a series of progressively larger fat suits for a year until she freaked out watching her sex tape with Drew and left.
Remember Kate Walsh on The Drew Carey Show?
They stuck her a series of progressively larger fat suits for a year until she freaked out watching her sex tape with Drew and left.
I thought she was a good sport for doing the fat suit thing, especially since it was an arc and not just a one-off episode. And she was way hotter as a blonde than as a redhead.
I didn't mind the more comic-book elements in this episode as they weren't too over the top and more-or-less in line with a somewhat grounded universe while still being in the realm of comic-book suspension-of-disbelief. There's a big difference between this drug and the goofiness from a couple weeks ago with the corrupt people being lifted away with the single weather balloon.
And when I saw the green vial with the two snakes on it I knew it had to be Venom or Venom-related, turned out to be a proto-Venom drug.
Of course, Bane is decades away, coming about when Batman is on the scene, but it was a neat little nod to the wider Batman universe. No surprise in the inner corruption in Wayne Enterprises.
I'm guessing Wayne Enterprises is a privately owned company in this and not a public company? That's not been too clear to me. I'm guessing it's still private since young Bruce still seems to have a measure of control over it.
The "cameo" of Young Catwoman did seem gratuitous but not too badly so, did enjoy the scene(s) of Harvey and Jim seeming to work together and getting along on a somewhat "friendly" level with the lunch at the burger stand.
The look of the show between the creations of the cityscapes and the 70s/80s automobiles still really works to give the show a cool vibe. I think Fish Mooney's little trap had a Walkman with her when she was listening to the song to lure in Falcone. As opposed to an early iPod or even a portable CD player. (I know, I know, the show isn't particularly supposed to be set in any specific time-period or decade but it's still sort of fun to find things like this that sort of see what they're playing with on the time-scale. '70s/'80s cars, '90s-era tube TVs, late-'90s/early '00s-era flip-phones and a Walkman all juxtapose one another quite well on the show's time-period.)
And, of course, Penguin continues to really steal his scenes and the show over all, though I'm really like Maroni and Falcone a lot too as they feel like they belong in a gangster shows/movies and it just somehow works here. Really, at this point I think the weakest character is Fish who's just not working for me. Nothing against Jada Smith but I think she's just got the dial turned too much to 11 and is just over-the-top, the pseudo-sexualness, the over-emoting her lines, all of that.
I've nothing against her as an actress but she's just not working for me here. Even Bullock's "on or off the line, whatever suits me at the moment" shtick seems to be dialed back some or more balanced now, esp. as the relationship between him and Gordon seems to have found a groove. But Fish continues to just be a bit much to take.
Maybe it's because they haven't used much time to "develop" her character or for her character to earn any over-the-topness she has. With everyone else we've gotten to see some subtleties and variations from the extremes of their characters. But everytime Fish is around she's got it to 11, is chewing scenery, and being hyper sexualized. I think we need to see more subtleties from her, some conflict or a touch of humanity. I dunno, she's the only one not working for me right now.
All and all, decent episode and the show remains a pretty good one I don't feel like I'm just fulfilling an obligation to the Comic Gods by watching.
And when I saw the green vial with the two snakes on it I knew it had to be Venom or Venom-related, turned out to be a proto-Venom drug.
Of course, Bane is decades away, coming about when Batman is on the scene, but it was a neat little nod to the wider Batman universe. No surprise in the inner corruption in Wayne Enterprises.
I'm guessing Wayne Enterprises is a privately owned company in this and not a public company? That's not been too clear to me. I'm guessing it's still private since young Bruce still seems to have a measure of control over it.
The "cameo" of Young Catwoman did seem gratuitous but not too badly so, did enjoy the scene(s) of Harvey and Jim seeming to work together and getting along on a somewhat "friendly" level with the lunch at the burger stand.
The look of the show between the creations of the cityscapes and the 70s/80s automobiles still really works to give the show a cool vibe. I think Fish Mooney's little trap had a Walkman with her when she was listening to the song to lure in Falcone. As opposed to an early iPod or even a portable CD player. (I know, I know, the show isn't particularly supposed to be set in any specific time-period or decade but it's still sort of fun to find things like this that sort of see what they're playing with on the time-scale. '70s/'80s cars, '90s-era tube TVs, late-'90s/early '00s-era flip-phones and a Walkman all juxtapose one another quite well on the show's time-period.)
And, of course, Penguin continues to really steal his scenes and the show over all, though I'm really like Maroni and Falcone a lot too as they feel like they belong in a gangster shows/movies and it just somehow works here. Really, at this point I think the weakest character is Fish who's just not working for me. Nothing against Jada Smith but I think she's just got the dial turned too much to 11 and is just over-the-top, the pseudo-sexualness, the over-emoting her lines, all of that.
I've nothing against her as an actress but she's just not working for me here. Even Bullock's "on or off the line, whatever suits me at the moment" shtick seems to be dialed back some or more balanced now, esp. as the relationship between him and Gordon seems to have found a groove. But Fish continues to just be a bit much to take.
Maybe it's because they haven't used much time to "develop" her character or for her character to earn any over-the-topness she has. With everyone else we've gotten to see some subtleties and variations from the extremes of their characters. But everytime Fish is around she's got it to 11, is chewing scenery, and being hyper sexualized. I think we need to see more subtleties from her, some conflict or a touch of humanity. I dunno, she's the only one not working for me right now.
All and all, decent episode and the show remains a pretty good one I don't feel like I'm just fulfilling an obligation to the Comic Gods by watching.
Another way of looking at the kooky theory is that a fake Oswald doesn't rise, but that this Oslwald is the fake, which is why they did on Haven with multiple Audrey Parkers.
Wow, we meet an old ghost from Bullock's past...Dan Hedaya!
He is not one of my favorite actors.
Well, once again the case of the week stuff pales in comparison to the mob plot. Unfortunately, the mob plot took a major back seat this week. This is probably one of the weaker episodes so far, though it is nice to see a different side of Bullock. Nygma is a character that has barely had any screen time, but is already wearing thin for me. We get it, he's the freaking Riddler. Now, please find a reason to justify his presence.
I liked that Eddie got a little more screen time. And it feels like the show is settling into whatever tone it wants to use.
Looking forward to see the outcome for Harvey.
Looking forward to see the outcome for Harvey.
I'm surprised to hear that. I felt this was the first actually good episode in the series so far -- which was only to be expected, given that it was Ben Edlund's first script so far. I was hooked the moment Barbara said "Half of all you carry." Actual good writing!! Actual nuance and subtlety and metaphor, not just heavy-handed obviousness! And then we get actual character development for Harvey and Ed, two characters who've desperately needed it. Harvey gets some dimensionality and we finally see him actually give a damn about a case, and lo and behold, he's actually a good detective! And Ed finally gets something to do other than show up for one scene and spout something riddle-related.
The one part that didn't work for me was the ending. Why would Oswald Cobblepot, a known criminal, just walk into the police station and announce himself? More importantly, how did he know to walk in at that exact moment?
Is Kristin Kringle an actual comics character, or is that just Edlund being Edlund?
^ You do raise some good points. I really am glad that Bullock got some much needed development. Nygma just isn't clicking for me. Yeah, he got to do more than spout riddles (though he still did that) but it was basically just being a creeper. Another case of this show's complete lack of anything resembling subtlety. Maybe I'm just predisposed to be bored by the cases at this point, and the parts that I actually care about being sidelined didn't help my interest. I really do want to love this show, but I still feel like I'm waiting for the big one to wow me. Right now I'm still watching more out of duty than actually enjoying the show.
Not sure on the timing but he does feel indebted to Gordon.
Maybe she's related to Jingle Belle? Scarily, I've actually known a Mary Christmas (brother Noel!) and a Candy Kane.
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