Gotham - Season 1
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But if you only eat olives when you down a Martini, finishing off a jar of those things in a weekend might kill you.
I believe it was originally rendered as "Darknight Detective," so it was unclear whether it was meant to be "night" or "knight" or both.
But also high in antioxidants and healthy phytochemicals. So they have good aspects and bad aspects.
I dunno, I'm just not a fan of Miller's work. Even the much lauded The Dark Knight is over the top and shows the early stages of Miller's insanity.
^Yeah, in the context of Miller's later work, one has to wonder whether the over-the-top quality of TDKR was intentionally satirical or actually in earnest. But when DC developed and released it, I'm pretty sure they meant it to be an alternative take rather than a template. Ditto with Watchmen -- its darkness, violence, and cynicism served a specific artistic purpose for the story it had to tell, but too many subsequent creators have copied those elements as ends in themselves without giving them an underlying purpose.
One such subsequent creator, Garth Ennis, certainly aped the negative aspects of Watchmen to the nth degree with his series the Boys. Every superhero was the very worst representative of humanity or mentally-impaired or both. Ennis' disdain and cynical view of superheroes was obvious with every issue.
I think some people read Watchmen and only remember the characters of the Comedian, Rorschach, and Ozymandias afterwards, just as some people must read DKR and just skip to the fight scenes. I'm afraid that both of the above may apply to Zack Snyder...
Alan Moore has actually spoken out years ago over the failed influence of "Watchmen". Where he wanted to influence other writers to write stories as ambitious in depth as his work, he saw "Watchmen" mostly inspire other writers to superficially copy the grittiness. Can't find a specific interview (I think he spoke about this several times, actually), but that was the gist of it.
That's vain. True, but vain.
You probably think this post is about you, don't you?
If the corset fits.
Yeah, I read that same thing. His goal was to introduce and develop new/different ways of telling a comic book story, hoping that writers and artists reading the series would be inspired to strengthen and further comics as a story-telling medium. But instead of focusing on the revolutionary techniques he and Gibbons were practicing, it seems the majority just dwelled on the grim and violent story that Moore himself felt was unimpressive taken by itself.
So instead of a wave of experimental sequential narrative techniques following Watchmen's release, we get what some are calling the Dark Age of comics with the late 80s/early 90s glut of anti-heroes and villains starring in their own books.
^Exactly. As is so often the case, most people took the wrong lessons from an innovative work, because they fixated on copying its surface elements rather than emulating the process of innovation itself.
Well, in both Arrow and Flash, "City" is part of the name of the city, so you can't avoid hearing it. The former has Starling City, or Star City if Ray Palmer gets his way (which he presumably will, since that's its name in the comics), and the latter is in the twin cities of Central City and Keystone City.
And of course, "Gotham" is short for Gotham City.
Oh, and Arrow also has Feli City.
Is the problem that we keep hearing THE City? That's gotta be irritating to suburbanites, who need validation that their suburb is as "legitimate" as a city.
Have you ever been to New York. Everyone all the way down to Newark refers to it as "the city." It's how I differentiate between South Jersey and North Jersey. If you hear someone say "the city" and think New York, you're from North Jersey. If you hear someone say "the city" and say "what the hell are you talking about? Which city? Trenton, Philly, New York?" you're from South Jersey.
Since Gotham is a New York substitute anyway, I generally assume they feel the same way.
Yup. I grew up (and still live) less than 20 miles from NYC.
"Going into The City tonight?" "Hey, I got a job in The City!" "There's a Creation Con in The City this weekend!"
And despite being in New Jersey, we're even considered a suburb of NYC! Ya get used to it.
It's that way in Baltimore, too, though for a slightly different reason (Baltimore is an independent city, so Baltimore City and Baltimore County are two completely separate entities).
I saw "Viper" early this morning:
I didn't mind it. I think the comic-book villany stuff mixes well with the 'cop' feel of the show. (The tone is still serious, and villains who use those types of weapons will be commonplace soon in that universe anyhow. It just matters how everything is executed).
Bruce Wayne actually had a reason to be in the episode. However, Selina Kyle only showed up pretty much as a cameo of sorts.....
Fish Mooney is trying to take over Falcone's territory using much younger girl that he will probably fall for and give away all his secrets, and Cobblepot (and Gordon) are dealing with Sal Maroni...
Everything is building up. It's just a matter of the payoff being worth it.
I didn't mind it. I think the comic-book villany stuff mixes well with the 'cop' feel of the show. (The tone is still serious, and villains who use those types of weapons will be commonplace soon in that universe anyhow. It just matters how everything is executed).
Bruce Wayne actually had a reason to be in the episode. However, Selina Kyle only showed up pretty much as a cameo of sorts.....
Fish Mooney is trying to take over Falcone's territory using much younger girl that he will probably fall for and give away all his secrets, and Cobblepot (and Gordon) are dealing with Sal Maroni...
Everything is building up. It's just a matter of the payoff being worth it.
So there's a theory going around about the identity of the Joker, and it's crazy how much sense it makes:
That. Is. Awesome.
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