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[BrookeStephen]

Did you ever notice the window in that ring of quarters? It would be up high, in the ceiling right beside the tilting wall - and it's in the right place, just never seen a window on the outside!

- windows... in the cieling?
- air conditioning ducts

The window in the captain's cabin (and I guess every other cabin on the same ring on deck 5 - same radius from the centre of the deck) is on the ceiling - you can see the way the ceiling is flat near the halway door, then curves down towards and over the bed, then it hits the tilted wall... in between where the ceiling is flat and where it hits the tilted wall is the window.

Directly above deck 5 is the water tanks on deck 4. The tanks end just above this ring of cabins on deck 5, as the hull gently slopes down and becomes horizontal at the outer edge of deck 5 (gotta know why things work on a star ship!)

They never made a big thing about the windows, but I believe they're there... and there's only just the hull right above where I believe it is.

Each cabin should have those air flow controls - each one has it's own environment, right? I haven't put that in my model. I haven't even put the red stripe on all the hallway walls yet!

 

[TIN_MAN]

^^ Could you maybe post a screencap? Cause I'm still not shure what you mean, there was no ceiling as such in the set, just open space for set lighting. It'd be cool if there were, but I don't think so? And yes, each cabin would have airflow controls, alternating, of course, from side to side with every other (reverse plan) cabin.

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

While looking at this tour, that reminds. Did you include the Cargo Transporter Rooms and Emergency Transporter Rooms in your VRML TOS Enterprise?

So I have a couple of pics for you - just so you know the ready state of my ship!

This is the Deck 10 cargo transporter you linked to. The hull under the txp curves, but I haven't put in the txp platform.

Thanks! I love it!


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[Navigator_NCC2120]

...I've been thinking about shipboard locations that haven't been seen...

And I came up with Deflector Control!
Never seen it - what the heck am I supposed to do with the holes in the hull? Sheesh!

Depending on where you look in the blueprints, these holes are either too big or too small... I've seen some kind of headlight-shaped thing fit into the hole, but I don't know... and what about the apparent workstations infront of each hole?

I just looked at Franz Joseph's Deck 7 blueprints and he labeled the first 3 rooms from left to right “PR” (Personal Isolation Room) and the 4th room looks like it is labeled “FR”. What does “FR” mean, Free Room? I could not find it (“FR”) in the Standard Abbreviations. Here is an idea, why not make this area with the 3 large portholes 7 Forward (Deck 7, Forward Station 1) equivalent to TNG Enterprise 10 Forward (Deck 10, Forward Station 1)? Instead of the 3 Deflectors. Just a thought.

A member here that goes by the screen name Ancient drew a cutaway of TOS Enterprise. Here is a link to it. Perhaps you could use it to fill in any blank areas of your VRML TOS Enterprise.

Also there is a member here with the screen name Ptrope, he is a Moderator in the Trek Art Forum. He has a website called “Star Trek: Reanimated” . He and others are creating 3d CGI for some of the Star Trek Animated TV Series Episodes, Synchronizing their 3d artwork with the episodes soundtrack (dialog, music, sound effects). Anyway, perhaps some of the people there would be willing to help you with your VRML TOS Enterprise or maybe they could port your VRML 3d model over into their 3d software. Again, just a thought.


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[BrookeStephen]

- What does “FR” mean, Free Room?
- 7 Forward instead of 10 Forward
- Ancient's cutaway of TOS Enterprise
- perhaps some of PTrope's people would be willing to help you

The FR is a typo, bad scan, whatever - the port side pic of deck 7 has FR, and it should be PR, and you can see it as PR in the stbd side pic of deck 7. It's probably where they send the Klingons when they need a time-out...

I wonder if I could get a beer there... perhaps I'm being alittle forward...

Ancient's cutaway - man that's a lot of work - I thought VRML Enterprise was a lot of work... there is so much detail in that cutaway. Impressive.

Is Ptrope one of the Four Mad Men? I've seen their models - amazing.
I think I saw the Tall Guy here too. He has some truly great Enterprise videos on YouTube. If you haven't seen them, they're worth a look.

You know I had to go fix Deck 10, when it was pointed out to me (was it Tin Man?) that the doors were too big for the wall!!! Unbelieveable. So you probably don't know that the doors on my Enterprise all "woosh" open when I get close and "woosh" closed again. They don't really care when they open - they'll stick out of the wall if they have too!!!! It was really funny that someone else caught the doors. You can see it on the deckplans too... doors too big! Too funny.

 

[BrookeStephen]

OOPS! I forgot a pic... I was looking at Deck 8 and the "Entertainment Center" which basically an indoor park - and it's huge... can you imagine it with VRML flowers, bushes and grass? with pathways and shaped berms of earth? I've got some ideas for doing VRML flora...

 

[BrookeStephen]

OK... who has 3-d glasses? You know - the old red/blue kind...
show of hands? Everybody !

You can see the larger size pic here!
That's another great thing about VRML - you can wander around the ship (if you decide to build one) with your 3d glasses on, and get a minor headache, but at least you get to see it like you're in the ship!

Like this one - Deck 6 Briefing Room:

And you can see a bigger pic here!
Ya know - this is actually more fun than Show-And-Tell from when I was a kid!

 

[BrookeStephen]

Yup definitely more fun!
I think I'm gonna make another YouTube video - this time using the 3d red/blue!!!

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

Is Ptrope one of the Four Mad Men?

I do not know, maybe.

I do have a pair of 3d glasses at home that came with that Graphics Gurus programming book I mentioned. I can't wait to see your 3d pictures with those 3d glasses.


Thanks,

Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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[BrookeStephen]

I do have a pair of 3d glasses at home that came with that Graphics Gurus programming book I mentioned. I can't wait to see your 3d pictures with those 3d glasses

Well hold on to your glasses cause I just made a video in 3D and it's up on YouTube!

Any other shipboard locations you want me to do for 3d glasses, you just let me know!

 

[TIN_MAN]

...I've been thinking about shipboard locations that haven't been seen...

And I came up with Deflector Control!
Never seen it - what the heck am I supposed to do with the holes in the hull? Sheesh!

Depending on where you look in the blueprints, these holes are either too big or too small... I've seen some kind of headlight-shaped thing fit into the hole, but I don't know... and what about the apparent workstations infront of each hole?

I just looked at Franz Joseph's Deck 7 blueprints and he labeled the first 3 rooms from left to right “PR” (Personal Isolation Room) and the 4th room looks like it is labeled “FR”. What does “FR” mean, Free Room? I could not find it (“FR”) in the Standard Abbreviations. Here is an idea, why not make this area with the 3 large portholes 7 Forward (Deck 7, Forward Station 1) equivalent to TNG Enterprise 10 Forward (Deck 10, Forward Station 1)? Instead of the 3 Deflectors. Just a thought.

A member here that goes by the screen name Ancient drew a cutaway of TOS Enterprise. Here is a link to it. Perhaps you could use it to fill in any blank areas of your VRML TOS Enterprise.

Also there is a member here with the screen name Ptrope, he is a Moderator in the Trek Art Forum. He has a website called “Star Trek: Reanimated” . He and others are creating 3d CGI for some of the Star Trek Animated TV Series Episodes, Synchronizing their 3d artwork with the episodes soundtrack (dialog, music, sound effects). Anyway, perhaps some of the people there would be willing to help you with your VRML TOS Enterprise or maybe they could port your VRML 3d model over into their 3d software. Again, just a thought.


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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When you get around to the battery rooms you might want to consult this http://www.treknology.org/technology1.htm it's in the grand tradition of MJ and FJ of extrapolating from current tech!

 

[BrookeStephen]

Outstanding stuff! Trek-nology - you gotta love it!
So did you see the 2 new 3d videos on YouTube?
I have to find some of those red/blue glasses - I don't even have a pair!!
;^)

 

[TIN_MAN]

^^ Yeah I checked it out, great stuff it seems, but as I don't have a pair of those glasses either, my mileage varied. Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion of the animated series, and will you be using any referances from it as you go along?

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

You know I had to go fix Deck 10, when it was pointed out to me (was it Tin Man?) that the doors were too big for the wall!!! Unbelieveable. So you probably don't know that the doors on my Enterprise all "woosh" open when I get close and "woosh" closed again. They don't really care when they open - they'll stick out of the wall if they have too!!!! It was really funny that someone else caught the doors. You can see it on the deckplans too... doors too big! Too funny.

So are you saying you shrank the cargo door size to fit into the walls when they slide open? I was thinking instead of shrinking them why not split the doors horizontally instead of vertically and have the lower half slide down below the deck and the upper half slide up above the ceiling. Or don't split the doors at all, just slide the whole door up toward deck 9 or have the whole door slide open up and then sideways like a garage door so that it would be parallel to the ceiling when it is open. Just a thought.


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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[Navigator_NCC2120]

I do have a pair of 3d glasses at home that came with that Graphics Gurus programming book I mentioned. I can't wait to see your 3d pictures with those 3d glasses

Well hold on to your glasses cause I just made a video in 3D and it's up on YouTube!

Any other shipboard locations you want me to do for 3d glasses, you just let me know!

I tried to view your YouTube 3d video but when I click on the link YouTube displays the message:

"This video has been removed by the user."


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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[TIN_MAN]

You know I had to go fix Deck 10, when it was pointed out to me (was it Tin Man?) that the doors were too big for the wall!!! Unbelieveable. So you probably don't know that the doors on my Enterprise all "woosh" open when I get close and "woosh" closed again. They don't really care when they open - they'll stick out of the wall if they have too!!!! It was really funny that someone else caught the doors. You can see it on the deckplans too... doors too big! Too funny.

So are you saying you shrank the cargo door size to fit into the walls when they slide open? I was thinking instead of shrinking them why not split the doors horizontally instead of vertically and have the lower half slide down below the deck and the upper half slide up above the ceiling. Or don't split the doors at all, just slide the whole door up toward deck 9 or have the whole door slide open up and then sideways like a garage door so that it would be parallel to the ceiling when it is open. Just a thought.


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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Another option is to assume that the doors aren't pocket doors, but simply swing open automatically?

BTW since we're all interested in the details here, I'll throw this in, I was just going over my copies of the FASA plans, which are based on FJ's, but offer much better resulution for descerning surface details such as consoles and lab tables and such, so this might be a good resource to consider using, even though they lack accuracy in many other respects?

 

[Navigator_NCC2120]

I do have a pair of 3d glasses at home that came with that Graphics Gurus programming book I mentioned. I can't wait to see your 3d pictures with those 3d glasses

Well hold on to your glasses cause I just made a video in 3D and it's up on YouTube!

Any other shipboard locations you want me to do for 3d glasses, you just let me know!

I tried to view your YouTube 3d video but when I click on the link YouTube displays the message:

"This video has been removed by the user."


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BrookeStephen,

I found the YouTube link of this 3d video that you posted in the Franz Joseph Thread in the Trek Art Forum.

Here is the working link to the 3d YouTube Video.


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[BrookeStephen]

what's your opinion of the animated series, and will you be using any referances from it as you go along?

My intention was always to only include the FJ deckplans in the model.
I had to modify that to include the McMaster Bridge details.
And I still have to detail the Bowling Alley, so somewhere along the line I'll have to find blueprints of one of those and use them.
I've also had to find plans for the shuttlecraft, which is still less than half-built.

I guess my point is that the majority of design comes from FJ, and I'm not going to other sources for complete information, like the animated series.

 

[BrookeStephen]

- you shrank the cargo door size to fit into the walls when they slide open?

Ya - let's not get too excited...
The change was minimal. The door was 1.5m wide, and is now 1.34m to fit the wall which is 2.68m (makes sense to keep the pocket door inside the pocket!) that's a difference in width of 6.3in - not so bad.
I also moved the door over (forward) to the centre of the wall.

Fits alot better now, and the doors don't stick out of the wall when they open.

 

[BrookeStephen]

I tried to view your YouTube 3d video but when I click on the link YouTube displays the message:

"This video has been removed by the user."

Ya - sorry about that - I took it down, added the music using Microsoft Movie Maker, then put up the modifed movie.
I'm pretty sure I changed the link after I did all that - you must've tried to use the link at the same time that I was adding the music.