It should be very successful!I look forward to your debut album.I could have whipped that tune up in Reason in about 2hrs flat.
Not necessarily. It's often that dozens of artists can sing hit songs that resonate with a lot of people, and those songs come from the minds of a handful of writers. Burt Bacharach, for one example. Diane Warren, for another.It's really a question of if she writes "most" of her own music.
No one can really write all their music any more if 3/4's of the rest of their awake life is about selling their music that they may or may not have written.
It's the difference between a puppet and an artist.
The oddest thing about Taylor is that she started as a Country and Western music singer.
Looks wise she looks like a skinny white chick. She's hot, but not entrancing in any way.
Looks wise she looks like a skinny white chick. She's hot, but not entrancing in any way.
And here I thought the "Babe of the Week"-threads were dead.![]()
True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.
Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.
Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.
Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.
Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
I see it more like this:
Music industry to non-celebrity women: Look at all these hot women we spent millions of dollars to look even more attractive. If you don't look like them you're ugly.
Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.
Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.
Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
I see it more like this:
Music industry to non-celebrity women: Look at all these hot women we spent millions of dollars to look even more attractive. If you don't look like them you're ugly.
Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
The oddest thing about Taylor is that she started as a Country and Western music singer.
That's not odd. It happens. (And sometimes in reverse, as well. Darius Rucker is now a country singer, and even Dire Straits went country on their last album!)
I can't say I'm happy that Taylor abandoned country for pop, but what the hell...there's still plenty of real country singers left.
How can her looks be irrelevant? They are an integral part of her "brand". She, like so many other pop stars (male and female), uses her looks to sell her brand.True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
I see it more like this:
Music industry to non-celebrity women: Look at all these hot women we spent millions of dollars to look even more attractive. If you don't look like them you're ugly.
Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
I don't care for her music and think it often sends bad messages, but I can't fault her for making a living. I don't so much mind that she's a brand, I just don't like what her brand represents. None of which extends to criticizing her looks, however, which should be irrelevant.
As Jirin pointed out, Taylor knew exactly what she was doing, where she wanted to be and how she was going to get there. She, and no doubt her management team very likely, made a conscious decision to go for that mega pop stardom that so many want but are unable to achieve.True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
I see it more like this:
Music industry to non-celebrity women: Look at all these hot women we spent millions of dollars to look even more attractive. If you don't look like them you're ugly.
Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
So Taylor's options are
1) Be rich and famous as well as harrassed, body-shamed, and judged.
And by the same token, being famous for how you look also does not mean that you get to suddenly claim the annonimity and rights of a private citizen when someone says something about your looks that is less than flattering.Being famous does not mean that you are automatically open to consequence-free criticism about things you cannot easily change and if we as a society have developed the view that "well they are famous, they asked for me to make intensely personal comments about their body that I would never say to a stranger" then we have a problem.
Her albums are successful based on her name. Just like Justin Bieber (or all the manufactured/packaged celebrities) or are you going to argue that Justin Bieber's music has any true artistic inspiration, or deep thoughtful messages?
Both of them tend to sing about the same shit every other top 40 trash song is about: Romance and Sex
Where did Taylor Swift say anything in that article? This is still just a strawman from your head. Whatever opinion you may be entitled to, you have no entitlement to respect for it.And by the same token, being famous for how you look also does not mean that you get to suddenly claim the annonimity and rights of a private citizen when someone says something about your looks that is less than flattering.Being famous does not mean that you are automatically open to consequence-free criticism about things you cannot easily change and if we as a society have developed the view that "well they are famous, they asked for me to make intensely personal comments about their body that I would never say to a stranger" then we have a problem.
You can't have it both ways.
True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.
Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.
Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.
Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"
I can say something like that would get to me after a while.
I see it more like this:
Music industry to non-celebrity women: Look at all these hot women we spent millions of dollars to look even more attractive. If you don't look like them you're ugly.
Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
Which TV show was this? Looking at her bio on Wikipedia I'm not seeing any reference to her being on such a TV show.Taylor Swift is a willful participant in this. Let's not forget she originally became famous by going on a television show which is all about making a singer into a brand. She entered into quite the Faustian bargain knowing where it would lead her, and if she chose she could have been a struggling Nashville musician who plays small gigs and is only judged for her music.
There is a big difference between Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber. Taylor Swift played music long before she was a brand and before her most recent album used to write all her songs.
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