Get Taylor Swift A Booty

[Locutus of Bored]

Actually, I was speaking generally here but okay, since you can't seem to get over this, I am speaking about the imaginary Taylor Swift in my mind who is hypothetically outraged.

As for "shutting people up" I wasn't referring to even "imaginary" Taylor there, but to folks who are more interested in getting people to not say "hurtful" things, which can never be done, than in helping build a culture that girds individual esteem to the point that those "hurtful" things don't cause hurt, self doubt, destruction of self esteem.

Does imaginary Taylor Swift live in this equally imaginary fantasy land where we've conquered human nature and purged ourselves of emotion?

Maybe Kim Cardassian can lend her some booty?

Taylor Swift looks just fine, so does Kim -though he recent nude photos with her lathered up in oil aren't very appealing to me-, when is stuff like this going to stop being such a damn issue.

And the award for the most poorly timed and tone deaf post goes to Trekker. I know you didn't mean anything by it, but damn dude, get a read of the thread first before rushing in.

 

[DimesDan]

I saw this on Buzzfeed the other day and rather liked it.

Just because Ms Swift is in the public eye, doesn't mean I or anyone else have the "right" to criticize her.

I do rather enjoy her new album.

 

[Set Harth]

It's funny how things change. Once upon a time, before Sir Mix-A-Lot and Kim Kardashian came along, women weren't expected to have big asses. In fact, quite the opposite. No one was.

One time a former girlfriend said to me: "You have no ass." I remember thinking: Was that supposed to be an insult? Because that's what I was going for.

 

[intrinsical]

Speaking of her album, I'm really loving 1989. I was a teenager in 1989 so having pop songs already made me love the album. She tops it off by making all the songs sound so good. Having said that, I thought this girl's cover of Blank Space had much more of an late-80s, early-90s pop vibe.

 

[Gaith]

Diplo (apropos dumbass name) didn't just make a single passing comment on Twitter, which would have been douchy enough but limited. He also retweeted a bunch of people and promoted a stupid petition, which got more attention and articles written about it, which I'm sure feels great for her as more and more people pile on.

Either way, it sounds like mainly one jerkass of no particular distinction getting a whole lot of Internet notoriety for a few tasteless tweets. Societal sexism is not a trivial matter, but seems to me that this story is.

I sometimes worry about our nation reaching Peak Internet Indignation...

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Diplo (apropos dumbass name) didn't just make a single passing comment on Twitter, which would have been douchy enough but limited. He also retweeted a bunch of people and promoted a stupid petition, which got more attention and articles written about it, which I'm sure feels great for her as more and more people pile on.

Either way, it sounds like mainly one jerkass of no particular distinction getting a whole lot of Internet notoriety for a few tasteless tweets. Societal sexism is not a trivial matter, but seems to me that this story is.

I sometimes worry about our nation reaching Peak Internet Indignation...

There's no mass indignation going on. Some people responded with their own tweets (welcome to how social media works) and it sparked what, a couple articles? Hardly a major issue.

It is interesting though that your first reaction to any sexism issue is not to actually discuss the issue at hand but to post some dismissive or distracting comment about it instead.

 

[mimic]

As I understand it, there's some speculation that Taylor Swift's song 'Bad Blood' is about her contentious relationship with Katy Perry. DJ Diplo is dating Perry, so he decided to 'defend his lady' or somesuch nonsense and fire this shot at Taylor. Why? Because he's an idiot, I'm assuming. I know nothing about the guy.

 

[gblews]

Actually, I was speaking generally here but okay, since you can't seem to get over this, I am speaking about the imaginary Taylor Swift in my mind who is hypothetically outraged.

As for "shutting people up" I wasn't referring to even "imaginary" Taylor there, but to folks who are more interested in getting people to not say "hurtful" things, which can never be done, than in helping build a culture that girds individual esteem to the point that those "hurtful" things don't cause hurt, self doubt, destruction of self esteem.

Does imaginary Taylor Swift live in this equally imaginary fantasy land where we've conquered human nature and purged ourselves of emotion?

No one said it would be easy. But we are much more aware of self esteem issues, especially gender related self esteem issues. You start when they're kids, pointing out the differences in how the media deals with "looks". Let them know that just because Beyonce is on T.V. with her butt in our faces, or Katy Perry's chest, or Taylor Swift's legs, that everyone who doesn't look like them is in some way physically deficient. Every kid is different and you have to figure out what works.

Everyone is not going to get it, but some will. And that beats the hell out of not trying simply because "you just can't change human nature".

 

[Gaith]

Either way, it sounds like mainly one jerkass of no particular distinction getting a whole lot of Internet notoriety for a few tasteless tweets. Societal sexism is not a trivial matter, but seems to me that this story is.

I sometimes worry about our nation reaching Peak Internet Indignation...

There's no mass indignation going on. Some people responded with their own tweets (welcome to how social media works) and it sparked what, a couple articles? Hardly a major issue.

It is interesting though that your first reaction to any sexism issue is not to actually discuss the issue at hand but to post some dismissive or distracting comment about it instead.

The "issue at hand", going by the thread title and OP, is this guy's comments, so whether or not he's worthy of any attention in the first place (and I don't see that he is) is hardly off-topic. Just because it's "how social media works" doesn't mean said system is above criticism.

Also, as I said above, I think the guy's likely a jerkass and the tweets were tasteless. Obviously, that constitutes discussion of the sexism side of the issue.

 

[GalaxyX]

Having never heard any of this lady's music, I just went to youtube and searched her name.

Black Space came up as one of the first options. I listened for about a minute.

Same vapid, shallow messages every top 40 teeny bopper song has nowadays, and truly uninspired music. I could have whipped that tune up in Reason in about 2hrs flat.

Looks wise she looks like a skinny white chick. She's hot, but not entrancing in any way.

This is the girl that's making millions? I feel sorry for society.

 

[Amaris]

It's just taste in music, it's not like she's advocating genocide with people hanging on to her every word. Now that would warrant societal shame.

 

[Nerys Myk]

This is the girl that's making millions? I feel sorry for society.

Why? Do you think "society" was going to spend the money and time on world peace, the cure for cancer and the unified field theory, instead?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

If you want to judge someone on his or her intelligence or skill or talent, knock yourself out. But mocking someone because of their body type isn't to your liking is pretty low. I choose to ignore that kind of childish cruelty, if at all possible.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean, here.

I agree completely about body types.

And I get that skill and talent is something that we assess when we decide whether to buy a performer's CDs. If I don't like the way a person sings, then I might not buy CDs that feature them as a singer for that reason. I get that.

However, like body type, intelligence isn't something that a person can change about themselves. If a person is publicly saying stupid things, then I can see calling them on that, by pointing out that what they're saying is wrong. But I can't see mocking their overall intelligence for that. Mocking is an ingredient of many kinds of emotional abuse, and being called stupid is really very hurtful. As with what their body type is, a person's worth isn't a function of how smart they are, is it? Or, is it?

It's also worth mentioning that "Shake It Off" is about shrugging off criticisms, including the accusation of being an air head.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

I could have whipped that tune up in Reason in about 2hrs flat.

I look forward to your debut album.

 

[Mooch]

I could have whipped that tune up in Reason in about 2hrs flat.

I look forward to your debut album.

It should be very successful!

 

[Guy Gardener]

Photocopiers were invented just so, so that any ass too large to be photocopied, would break the machine.

People knew their place unless they were prepared to replace a broken photocopier.

Although Catherine the Great apocryphally used a system of harnesses and pulleys when that horse ####ed her.

I suppose in a perfect world if photocopiers came with a set of harnesses and pulleys in perhaps the lowest draw to the unit, this wouldn't be an office place problem the insurance companies would have to get tetchy about any more.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.

Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.

Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.

 

[Amaris]

It's absolutely sickening the way women are judged and chastised based on their looks.

Though I have trouble feeling bad for a celebrity for being made fun of on the internet.

Non-celebrity women have to put up with that crap in contexts that actually affect them personally.

True, but I can understand how they feel. Being a female celebrity seems to work like this:

Music Artist: "Hey guys, I just released my new album! I hope you like it!"
Generic Commenter: "Your music sucks, you're fat, you're fake, you're plastic, let's see those tits."
Music Artist: "I'd rather you judge my music, and not my physical appearance."
Interviewer: "He makes a good point, though. You need to wear nicer clothes, get some lipo, eat a cheeseburger."
Music Artist: "This is ridiculous! I'm not talking about me, I'm talking about my music!"
News media: "Music Artist explodes on TwitterBook. Do celebrities consider themselves above criticism?"

I can say something like that would get to me after a while.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The oddest thing about Taylor is that she started as a Country and Western music singer.

 

[Amaris]

The oddest thing about Taylor is that she started as a Country and Western music singer.

Nothing odd about that. Country music and pop are closely intertwined.