News Georgiou Section 31 Series officially announced:

[Crazyewok]

What is unrealistic about, maybe we shouldn't treat genocidal psychopaths as besties and we might have a future where organisations like the KGB or CIA are not needed. The CIA didn't even exist until the 20th century and was very nearly shut down by Kennedy.

These organisations exist because of the geopolitical nature of earth in the 20th and 21st century under imperialism and capitalism, the material conditions of the future may be very different.

This is what makes S31 crap to begin with, it shows that even in the future humans are just violent hypocritical imperialists. It's representation on Discovery also basically tells the audience that things like Iraq ,Vietnam, Yemen are justified. If Star Trek is about showing the best we can be, what does it say about the writers that their vision of the best we can be even with unlimited resources is to be reliant a psychopathic organisation that engages in violent regime change, mass surveillance and genocide.
Why people want a TV show in the Star Trek universe around this crap is beyond me. 99% of science fiction is dystopian dark shit, why can't we have at least one nice thing that says we can be better?

Hahaha

Another example of why I am already a fan of the S31 series!

The great triggering of the genes "vision" crowd

 

[The Old Mixer]

Hahaha

Another example of why I am already a fan of the S31 series!

The great triggering of the genes "vision" crowd

And that’s borderline trolling. There’s a more civil way to make your point.

 

[Crazyewok]

No. I am just a direct person

I love it when a show turns things on its head and deconstructs things.
Long as continuity is kept I don't care if in the new picardy series they show the federation collapse into a dystopian dictatorship.

I certainly love the S31 concept and thing people these days are far too sensitive and soft.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I love it when a show turns things on its head and deconstructs things.
Long as continuity is kept I don't care if in the new picardy series they show the federation collapse into a dystopian dictatorship.

I certainly love the S31 concept and thing people these days are far too sensitive and soft.

And that's the more civil way that I was talking about.

 

[Rhodan]

Come to think about, up until Discovery we´ve had six shows (including TAS) and now we might get ANOTHER six (including Short Treks and two cartoons).

 

[Jayson1]

If the show is filmed in Canada then I am guessing Section 31 headquarters is now going to look like Simon Fraser University. Plus it will be fun to see every Stargate and Smallville actor ever on Trek, in many cases for the first time!


Jason

 

[Tuskin38]

If the show is filmed in Canada then I am guessing Section 31 headquarters is now going to look like Simon Fraser University. Plus it will be fun to see every Stargate and Smallville actor ever on Trek, in many cases for the first time!


Jason

If they film in Canada, it will probably be in Toronto again, like Discovery.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

And SFU is in Vancouver. It's not exactly easy to film from Toronto. Mountains in the way.

OTOH, they can finally have live shots of the Toronto City Hall, wihch has already cameoed in TNG!

Mark

 

[starbuck]

not a good idea

 

[F. King Daniel]

I suspect that following Discovery season 2, this is gonna resemble post-Winter Soldier version of Agents of SHIELD, with Georgiou slowly rebuilding Section 31 from the shadows.

 

[PiotrB]

Michelle Yeoh gave an update on the development of the show, confirming that the third season of Discovery will come first:

Section 31 is in the works as we speak. We will shoot Season 3 of Discovery first, and then move on to Section 31.

Source: https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/17/mi...-show-will-be-more-fun-with-a-nicer-georgiou/
and
https://www.newsweek.com/section-31...michelle-yeoh-season-georgiou-burnham-1399769

 

[Alan Roi]

not a good idea

There are no bad ideas

 

[starbuck]

Well some stinkers then

 

[Mudd]

Don't care. The premise is lame.

The Picard show also seems like a big nothing.

There are no bad ideas

No shortage of bad writers.

 

[Alan Roi]

Well some stinkers then

It all in the execution.

 

[Alan Roi]

Don't care. The premise is lame.

The Picard show also seems like a big nothing.
.

Awesome for you to have decided in advance. 20+ hours a year you can devote to something you actually want to do.

No shortage of bad writers.

And bad writers produce bad product no matter the premise.

 

[Cake]

https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/17/mi...-show-will-be-more-fun-with-a-nicer-georgiou/

Section 31 will be more fun—less intense and more fun-driven. Visiting more planets. Going around rescuing people in our own way.

When Section 31 was announced opinions were very divided. I think the two main groups were on the one hand people not liking the premise already and on the other hand people liking it and hoping for a dark and gritty series exploring the hidden unethical secrets behind the Federation's nice face or at least something along those lines.

So I am not sure who will find a fun, seemingly relative lighthearted Section 31/Georgiou series appealing. It just seems it won't really satisfy either group. If they would have chosen the super dark route, at least the second group would have been happy.

Personally I think it is really weird to make a "fun-driven" series and choose as your lead character someone who is responsible for likely billions of deaths and some genocides.

 

[Alan Roi]

https://trekmovie.com/2019/04/17/mi...-show-will-be-more-fun-with-a-nicer-georgiou/


When Section 31 was announced opinions were very divided. I think the two main groups were on the one hand people not liking the premise already and on the other hand people liking it and hoping for a dark and gritty series exploring the hidden unethical secrets behind the Federation's nice face or at least something along those lines.

So I am not sure who will find a fun, seemingly relative lighthearted Section 31/Georgiou series appealing. It just seems it won't really satisfy either group. If they would have chosen the super dark route, at least the second group would have been happy.

Personally I think it is really weird to make a "fun-driven" series and choose as your lead character someone who is responsible for likely billions of deaths and some genocides.

It going to appeal to a lot of people, just not those who are determined not to be happy with it.

 

[Starflight]

I was completely uninterested in the Section 31 series at first, but I've increasingly come around to the idea lately, which I think is almost entirely due to Michelle Yeoh clearly having so much fun playing the character that it's impossible not to have some of it rub off on you as a viewer.

The kinder/nicer Georgiou is absolutely welcome. I think, as others have mentioned before in the thread, that the writers mis-stepped in a big way by making Mirror Georgiou such a monster in the first season. It's too much of a leap to ask the audience to be on her side in Discovery after showing us the atrocity of the Terran Empire under her command. But putting the character in her own spinoff separate from Discovery might offer them to chance to sort of gloss over that in an acceptable way and repurpose the character as the sardonic anti-hero she perhaps ought to have been from the get-go.

On top of that, Yeoh's comment that the show will see them "visiting more planets" sounds like exactly my kind of thing.

I've hated Section 31 ever since their introduction in DS9. If this series takes the opportunity to successfully soften their image a bit and show us that they really are basically good people who embody the Federation's values, albeit with greater moral flexibility than Starfleet, it will do a great service to the Star Trek universe.

 

[Alan Roi]

I was completely uninterested in the Section 31 series at first, but I've increasingly come around to the idea lately, which I think is almost entirely due to Michelle Yeoh clearly having so much fun playing the character that it's impossible not to have some of it rub off on you as a viewer.

The kinder/nicer Georgiou is absolutely welcome. I think, as others have mentioned before in the thread, that the writers mis-stepped in a big way by making Mirror Georgiou such a monster in the first season. It's too much of a leap to ask the audience to be on her side in Discovery after showing us the atrocity of the Terran Empire under her command. But putting the character in her own spinoff separate from Discovery might offer them to chance to sort of gloss over that in an acceptable way and repurpose the character as the sardonic anti-hero she perhaps ought to have been from the get-go.

On top of that, Yeoh's comment that the show will see them "visiting more planets" sounds like exactly my kind of thing.

I've hated Section 31 ever since their introduction in DS9. If this series takes the opportunity to successfully soften their image a bit and show us that they really are basically good people who embody the Federation's values, albeit with greater moral flexibility than Starfleet, it will do a great service to the Star Trek universe.

She does offer a hint to me of a Blakes Seven Avon-type character, something that we've never gotten as a main protagonist in any Trek series. I hope i'm not wrong in my impression of how she's going to be utilized and not simply get Ensign Roed all the time and strictly there to always provide the "bad ideas" that are always shot down as we got last ep.