General Trek Questions and Observations

[Gingerbread Demon]

I asked ChatGPT to draw what TOS era Borg (and a Borg cube) might look like if Gene Roddenberry had decided to have the Borg on TOS. I was impressed with what it came up with.

Borg cube:

Borg drone (I don't know why it actually says "Star Trek" on his chest but when I asked for it to draw me a TOS Borg drone I typed in "
draw a borg drone if the borg had shown up in star trek: the original series (as opposed to star trek: the next generation borg). make it look like it was something the budget of a 60s sci fi show could afford":

In actual ST canon, I can imagine that early Borg cubes and drones looked a lot like these pictures.

Those look cool and that cube would make an amazing 3D print

 

[Nerys Myk]

That’s one hard to solve Rubik's Cube.

 

[cooleddie74]

Rick Rubin's cubes are always the most baffling.

 

[Moonglum]

Has it ever been explained why Picard, a Frenchman who grew up in France, had an English accent? My own personal theory is that sometime between now and Star Trek TNG times, England invaded France, whose army folded quicker than a lap napkin naturally, and the new English overlords abolished the French language as they sound like toddlers trying not to gag as they speak.

 

[Nyotarules]

Has it ever been explained why Picard, a Frenchman who grew up in France, had an English accent? My own personal theory is that sometime between now and Star Trek TNG times, England invaded France, whose army folded quicker than a lap napkin naturally, and the new English overlords abolished the French language as they sound like toddlers trying not to gag as they speak.

There was a comment in Picard S2. His ancestors fled to England during WW3, however why their descendants should have English accents 300 years later was not explained. Maybe the viewer is supposed to pretend Picard sounds French, La Forge sounds Somalian, Uhura sounds Kenyan and Worf sounds Russian. And all the aliens do not sound American or Canadian.
Stewart is not the first actor using his own accent that does not match his dramatic nationality. Did Charlton Heston sound like an ancient Hebrew in The Ten commandments? Elizabeth Taylor sound like an ancient Egyptian in Cleopatra? Did Montalban sound like an Indian Sikh in TOS Space Seed?
Therefore no explaination needed.

 

[Moonglum]

There was a comment in Picard S2. His ancestors fled to England during WW3, however why their descendants should have English accents 300 years later was not explained. Maybe the viewer is supposed to pretend Picard sounds French, La Forge sounds Somalian, Uhura sounds Kenyan and Worf sounds Russian. And all the aliens do not sound American or Canadian.
Stewart is not the first actor using his own accent that does not match his dramatic nationality. Did Charlton Heston sound like an ancient Hebrew in The Ten commandments? Elizabeth Taylor sound like an ancient Egyptian in Cleopatra? Did Montalban sound like an Indian Sikh in TOS Space Seed?
Therefore no explaination needed.

I agree, it is not needed, I was just curious if it ever was explained.

 

[FredH]

I agree, it is not needed, I was just curious if it ever was explained.

I think PIC hinted that the family had stayed in England for a century or two with the house under caretakers, only returning a generation or so before Picard was born. So maybe the English accent continued in the house, and that’s why Picard could at one point consider “putting on” a French persona “to sound more seeneestaire…”

 

[tharpdevenport]

I don't care for the Borg drone circa TOS era.

Borg were shown to be grown as humanoids, though later that was kind of dropped, but after that it was shown they assimilated people and added cyberneic implants. A TOS drone should be more human looking with more clunky tech; maybe something amputated with a mechanical arm or some such thing.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The Borg had existed for thousands of centuries before they made the mistake of antagonising Picard and Janeway, so I don't know if TOS-era Borg would be much different. Unless they were trying to depict them on the TOS show.

 

[at Quark's]

There was a comment in Picard S2. His ancestors fled to England during WW3, however why their descendants should have English accents 300 years later was not explained. Maybe the viewer is supposed to pretend Picard sounds French, La Forge sounds Somalian, Uhura sounds Kenyan and Worf sounds Russian. And all the aliens do not sound American or Canadian.
Stewart is not the first actor using his own accent that does not match his dramatic nationality. Did Charlton Heston sound like an ancient Hebrew in The Ten commandments? Elizabeth Taylor sound like an ancient Egyptian in Cleopatra? Did Montalban sound like an Indian Sikh in TOS Space Seed?
Therefore no explaination needed.

Languages and accents are often treated illogically anyway.

Take for example a WW2-era film that plays in Germany and features some German characters talking amongst each other. Frequently they'll have them talk English with a 'German' accent (and often a fake one at that). Which is weird, as they are presumably 'really' speaking their own language (German) in their own country. So, I'd say, either let the actors actually speak German, or do a 'full' translation of the situation (by making them speak English with a native accent). Not such a weird compromise that is neither fish nor flesh.

(But ok, this is perhaps slightly off topic.)

 

[NCC-73515]

There was a comment in Picard S2. His ancestors fled to England during WW3, however why their descendants should have English accents 300 years later was not explained. Maybe the viewer is supposed to pretend Picard sounds French, La Forge sounds Somalian, Uhura sounds Kenyan and Worf sounds Russian. And all the aliens do not sound American or Canadian.
Stewart is not the first actor using his own accent that does not match his dramatic nationality. Did Charlton Heston sound like an ancient Hebrew in The Ten commandments? Elizabeth Taylor sound like an ancient Egyptian in Cleopatra? Did Montalban sound like an Indian Sikh in TOS Space Seed?
Therefore no explaination needed.

IIRC, he went to school and grew up in England

 

[Shawnster]

The Borg had been existed for thousands of centuries before they made the mistake of antagonising Picard and Janeway, so I don't know if TOS-era Borg would be much different. Unless they were trying to depict them on the TOS show.

But I like the idea of what the Borg would look like had they been introduced on TOS.

The AI apps don't seem to understand the full concept

 

[at Quark's]

The Borg had been existed for thousands of centuries before they made the mistake of antagonising Picard and Janeway, so I don't know if TOS-era Borg would be much different. Unless they were trying to depict them on the TOS show.

We also know 900 years before Voyager's time the Borg only had a handful of systems, and their memories of that time were fragmentary (Dragon's Teeth) so it seems they expanded quickly just in the last few centuries. This also increases the odds they assimilated a lot of new technologies those last few centuries, possibly altering their appearance.

 

[NCC-73515]

Btw, according to IMDB, there is

Spoiler

a Vaadvaur in 31

 

[knightgrace]

There was a comment in Picard S2. His ancestors fled to England during WW3, however why their descendants should have English accents 300 years later was not explained. Maybe the viewer is supposed to pretend Picard sounds French, La Forge sounds Somalian, Uhura sounds Kenyan and Worf sounds Russian. And all the aliens do not sound American or Canadian.
Stewart is not the first actor using his own accent that does not match his dramatic nationality. Did Charlton Heston sound like an ancient Hebrew in The Ten commandments? Elizabeth Taylor sound like an ancient Egyptian in Cleopatra? Did Montalban sound like an Indian Sikh in TOS Space Seed?
Therefore no explaination needed.

A long time ago Hollywood thought that Americans were so incompetent, that we would only understand American News accents. They still think that we are that stupid.
Which is why we got dumb scripts for Voyager et el.
They don't pay attention to who we really are. We are probably some of the smartest people on the planet. Us Sci Fi buffs...

 

[FredH]

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They don't pay attention to who we really are. We are probably some of the smartest people on the planet. Us Sci Fi buffs...

Rise, ye mighty!

Cosmic Circle - Fancyclopedia 3

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[hbquikcomjamesl]

It occurred to me after the "Star Trek Insults" thread was quashed (for yielding more heat than light, as I recall) that to any serious ST fan, who knew his or her TOS production and pre-production history, that the ultimate insult, the one unforgivable offense that would inevitably lead to bloodshed, would be:

Your mother was a Lost in Space fan!

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

https://www.orbisculate.com/

Has anyone heard of this? Trek should definitely use the word "orbisculate", then it can get a Memory Alpha page, too.

 

[Bynar0110]

Tom Paris turning into a lizard kinda makes sense in hindsight considering actor Richard Herd who played Owen Paris also played John - The Supreme Commander of the Earth fleet of the Visitors in the two V Miniseries that aired in the 80s. The Visitors in V were lizards.

 

[Farscape One]

Tom Paris turning into a lizard kinda makes sense in hindsight considering actor Richard Herd who played Owen Paris also played John - The Supreme Commander of the Earth fleet of the Visitors in the two V Miniseries that aired in the 80s. The Visitors in V were lizards.

That is some really off the wall mental gymnastics to come up with that justification.

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