Tricorders and The Let's Fly
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Viggo Mortensen can play the adult lizardman son of Paris and Janeway
I just want a skit set in the 31st century where a Commander Zimmerman, played by Robert Picardo, is being briefed by his lieutenant, concerning the timeline getting all jumbled up, and then his officer gets to the part about Alien Nazis.
“What?! How the hell did this get so convoluted? Who’s supposed to be in charge of this assignment?”
“Daniels, sir.”
“What?! How the hell did this get so convoluted? Who’s supposed to be in charge of this assignment?”
“Daniels, sir.”
In a way, even though it's not, DSC Season 5 is still a 13-episode season from my perspective as a viewer.
I've begun my re-watch of the season with "The Chase" (TNG), just like I re-watched that episode before the season premiere. Then there the 10 episodes and "Life, Itself" is a double-length episode (86 minutes), so it's really 11 episodes. After that is "Calypso", which I'll always watch after DSC S5.
As far as I'm concerned, "The Chase" and "Calypso" come with the DSC Season 5 package.
I've begun my re-watch of the season with "The Chase" (TNG), just like I re-watched that episode before the season premiere. Then there the 10 episodes and "Life, Itself" is a double-length episode (86 minutes), so it's really 11 episodes. After that is "Calypso", which I'll always watch after DSC S5.
As far as I'm concerned, "The Chase" and "Calypso" come with the DSC Season 5 package.
I hope Michelle Paradise will and is able to work out a deal with IDW or Pocket Books to bring DSC Season 6 to print.
So, is Star Trek 3 a "double movie", with Star Trek 2 preceding it?
No. Star Trek II had normal film running time and Star Trek III had normal film running time.
"Life, Itself" has a similar runtime to "Encounter at Farpoint", "Emissary", "All Good Things", "Caretaker", "The Way of the Warrior", and you get the idea. And all of those episodes are typically considered two.
So, I've pieced together a reason Season 5 felt a bit underwhelming to me - the season arc felt toned down to the extent that it honestly felt more befitting of children's literature (like a middle-grade book series) than something from adult fiction.
Going through the evidence:
Going through the evidence:
- Moll and La'k (until he dies) are never seriously threatening as antagonists. They not only don't seriously imperil our heroes, they're always one step behind, and always lose, ala Team Rocket.
- The Breen are cartoonishly evil and dumb, reminding me of Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget or Gargamel or something. Again, they don't actually seriously imperil the crew ever. Even when Discovery takes damage under fire, no one dies - not even in an offscreen casualty report.
- The clue trail's puzzles feel like something out of an RPG, and in some cases (like the triangle arrangement in the finale) are straight-up kids puzzles.
Even though I started my "Season 5 as Whole" thread earlier this week, I feel like I'm dragging my feet. I re-watched the first two episodes and that's it. I'd meant to watch the entire season this week, but it didn't happen. That's a tiny bit of a red flag. With DSC S1, PIC S1, or PIC S3, I couldn't re-watch them fast enough. Didn't care if I had other things going on, I made the time whether I should've or not.
So, that's kind of telling me something. Not that I think the season was bad, but that it wasn't my favorite. I don't need to rate all the episodes and average them out to figure that out. Another red flag was my only listing bullet points in the discussion threads. My defenses and rebuttals were also a lot more muted this time. In previous seasons, I'd hit back HARD. This time, by my standards, I didn't. Anyone familiar with my posts can probably tell I was playing softball.
Talk is cheap and sometimes you have to go by actions. My actions, or lack thereof, are telling me something. Now that I've had more than a week's distance from the season, I'm beginning to see it.
EDITED TO ADD: I think it's possible in retrospect that Discovery Season 5 could work as a tonal transition to Starfleet Academy. I can more naturally see SFA as a spin-off to DSC after S5 than I could with S4.
So, that's kind of telling me something. Not that I think the season was bad, but that it wasn't my favorite. I don't need to rate all the episodes and average them out to figure that out. Another red flag was my only listing bullet points in the discussion threads. My defenses and rebuttals were also a lot more muted this time. In previous seasons, I'd hit back HARD. This time, by my standards, I didn't. Anyone familiar with my posts can probably tell I was playing softball.
Talk is cheap and sometimes you have to go by actions. My actions, or lack thereof, are telling me something. Now that I've had more than a week's distance from the season, I'm beginning to see it.
EDITED TO ADD: I think it's possible in retrospect that Discovery Season 5 could work as a tonal transition to Starfleet Academy. I can more naturally see SFA as a spin-off to DSC after S5 than I could with S4.
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I can’t really think of how it’ll tie into SA. In fact, my understanding has always been that it’s going to try to stand on its own as a Trek series you can jump into without needing to watch anything before. I’ll actually be surprised if Tilly amounts to anything more than an occasional guest star that pops up here and there.
No, no, no. I said tonally. Of course it'll stand on its own. But say you're watching Discovery and then you watch Starfleet Academy. The tone of S5, seeming lighter and younger-skewing, is a bit of a tonal/emotional bridge.
I think SFA will be closer to the tone of DSC S5 than the tone of DSC S1 through even S4. That's what the tea leaves are telling me. I'd bet money on it. SFA, unless I'm way, way, way off, will also be lighter and younger-skewing. That's my understanding. They even have Tawny Newsome of Lower Decks on the writing staff, which supports what I'm thinking.
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Oh I have no doubt it’ll be lighter in tone.
I finished watching the final episode of Season 5 of Star Trek Discovery. Too many happy ending epilogues especially for the Burnham family.
why not show what Saru and his Vulcan wife having weird looking half breed kids or if Stamets being grateful instead of him being a little selfish etc where he wanted to get his hands on the Progenitor tech but he would have failed to understand any of it by himself anyway.
also it would have been ok to see Reno get promoted or something instead of her doing nothing the whole time
why not show what Saru and his Vulcan wife having weird looking half breed kids or if Stamets being grateful instead of him being a little selfish etc where he wanted to get his hands on the Progenitor tech but he would have failed to understand any of it by himself anyway.
also it would have been ok to see Reno get promoted or something instead of her doing nothing the whole time
While I have my quibbles here, a lot of it came down to having a limited budget, which meant a limited run-time. Some of the actors were also not available (Wilson Cruz couldn't even show for the hug scene, and had to be digitally added)
To do all the characters full justice, I think they'd need to have the budget to record a standalone finale episode.
I don't have work until late today, so I'm going to burn through re-watching as much of the rest of the season as I can. Hoping to get all the way up to Episode 8.
I got to post this here hilariously bad video done in chatgpt
Supposedly about Calypso
I don't know who is making these but there's lots of em.
Supposedly about Calypso
I don't know who is making these but there's lots of em.
To be fair, the show was never about them. They were never even part of the main cast. It was always going to be focused on Michael, Saru, Stamets, Tilly, Culber, Tal, and Book, with Lorca, Tyler, Pike, and Rayner in specific seasons.And with each season only having half the amount of episodes compared to past shows, they never had a chance like O’Brien occasionally got on TNG.
It's a shame that Discovery was only able to solve its bridge crew problem halfway through its final season, when Emily Coutts and Oyin Oladejo were unavailable for filming and they had to replace them with new faces.
It's weird though that the show even had a problem, seeing as no one ever complained about Barnes not getting enough to do on Lower Decks, or the anonymous bridge extras in Picard, or Mitchell in Strange New Worlds. Or Ogawa on TNG. I'm not sure I've ever seen a series give so much attention to a supporting cast it had no intention of developing further or using to their potential.
It's weird though that the show even had a problem, seeing as no one ever complained about Barnes not getting enough to do on Lower Decks, or the anonymous bridge extras in Picard, or Mitchell in Strange New Worlds. Or Ogawa on TNG. I'm not sure I've ever seen a series give so much attention to a supporting cast it had no intention of developing further or using to their potential.
Yeah that's true.
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