I know, I'm the exact same way as those folks.that's why people use tools like classic shell or the Windows 11 debloaters.
I'd argue that that shifting the start menu is the least of the issues - that's simply changing things from what people are used to that annoys them (I had a client years ago who had software on her system to make sure icons on the desktop stayed in the same place otherwise she got unhappy).Yeah, it's a disgrace that people have to fix what they've bought to make it halfway usable..![]()
Wow. Just the disk or a working copy?
Not going to be too long before the retro computing forums start talking about the Vista because it falls into the category.
Talk about depressing![]()
r/vintagecomputing and r/retrohomelab on reddit and probably others as well.what
theres a retro computing forums
God I hate what the current Windows team did to the Windows 11 Start Menu.
It's like they intentionally are designed by people who don't use any DeskTop computers in the past 3 decades, just to fulfill a check box to show that they did some work that wasn't necessary.
I bet you it's some 'Young Whipper-Snapper' PM who never grew up with a classic computer OS and grew up on iOS or Android.Yeah, I know right? The first thing I did was go into the personalization options and switch the taskbar to left-justified, or something to that effect. I absolutely hate that it defaults to a centered position. Not only is it butt-ugly while centered, but it's a waste of good screen space. I don't know who decided it was a great idea for a desktop to have a centered taskbar. And yes, I hate the default start menu too. It's the reason why I use the classic shell. It's so much better from a user standpoint when non-touchscreens aren't forced to use a touchscreen designed UI.
It's for reasons like these I wish MS would include more customizablity options when it comes the start menu out of the box. Give users the option for classic style.
I bet you it's some 'Young Whipper-Snapper' PM who never grew up with a classic computer OS and grew up on iOS or Android.
And tries to shape the OS GUI in their experience w/ ZERO care for the entire audience of Windows Users who came before it.
The thing that gets me is that we've all been taught how to maximize our screen space for decades, especially in the CRT days, then someone gets the brilliant idea that the taskbar should be centered. Can you imagine someone trying that on a 4:3 screens?? Well, it's one thing to center a website in terms of reading experience, but it's different when it's your workspace. It's all about workflow, and arguably, one could say a centered taskbar reduces workflow. It's certainly more noticeable and not in a good way. It'd be like a real-world equivalent to someone putting an anvil in the middle of a desk. Sure, you can have it moved, but it's the very idea that someone thought it was a good idea to put it right in the middle of where you work would be baffling.
And can’t say I miss 4:3 monitors.
Yeah, I don't either. But I mean that in those days, we learned to appreciate what we had to squeeze as much out of the space as we could, and when widescreens came around, it was like an entire kingdom. The centered taskbar reminds me too much of the 4:3 era and feels like a constraint and not a good use of space.
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