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I am using VLC portable on all my Windows machines and it runs just fine, the last few versions have been working without a problem.

I don't use the Windows media player.. eww.

As for Windows bloat, yes, M$ has a history of creating ever more bloated software which they say can run on "current" hardware but they really mean the high end current hardware, they pulled that shit with Windows 95, Vista and I hear that 10 is becomming a slow bloated pig as well.
 
Santaman said:
I am using VLC portable on all my Windows machines and it runs just fine, the last few versions have been working without a problem.

I don't use the Windows media player.. eww.

As for Windows bloat, yes, M$ has a history of creating ever more bloated software which they say can run on "current" hardware but they really mean the high end current hardware, they pulled that shit with Windows 95, Vista and I hear that 10 is becomming a slow bloated pig as well.
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Oh gods I remember Windows 95, still have my disk around here somewhere too although it's scuffed and scratched.

That Windows generated a lot of parodies for the wrong reasons :)




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Asbo Zaprudder said:
I used to have problems with the compatibility and performance of VLC a few years ago but it seems to have improved a lot.
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had some initial issues with VLC 3 but a re-install fixed that.

It's very handy to have on my PC but it's also on my cell phone, though for most media consumption I have a Plex media server running.

As for the latest update for flash, if only that abomination would just HURRY THE FUCK UP AND DIE but no people still use it for encoding online videos and games on facebook are flashed based.
 
just had to install debian on a laptop i was fixing as ... the win10 just corrupted itself and the copy of win10 in the lap on a separate drive... I did not lose the win10 but ... tried first to install the ubuntu linux and it seems 64 bit will not install on a 32 bit machine ... I haven't any dvd's for the Debian 32 bit but Debian was imaged to a cd ... that I have bunches of ... all went well with the install on the lap and my friend feels comfortable enough to use linux.. (once installed) --- I of course had been having update problems with the ubuntu studio so I put a debian 64 bit on a cd and put it on my Linux hard drive.. the lap now has three Os's booting in the grub but only one works.
 
Having M$ Spyware 10 multiboot with other OS's is a real hassle, you'll have to google fu around to find a solution.
Debian is not the most userfriendly Linux distro, Ubuntu is a better choice but IMO Linux Mint is the most friendly Linux distro.

64 bit OS's can't install on 32 bit machines, yup, it misses all kinds of stuff, it does sound like that laptop is a tad ancient.. I mean 64 bit CPU's have been around since 2003 (AMD Athlon 64) and as of 2004 Intel also brought out 64 bit CPU's.
 
the Lap my friend had was very very inexpensive ... 32 bit 1 gig... I guess the debian will boost her speed and get it into semi-workable levels... I agree but I did not put the correct label on the dvd..

I did net installs with debian on her laptop and my AMD 64 8 processor x4... @ 4 gig.. across the 8 my machine started after an hour that the lap's head start --- and finished like... mmmmm 1 hour before the lap but the lap was on wifi and my desk had direct network wired from the same router ..
 
I almost would suggest Puppy Linux because that laptop has such a low amount of resources, I got Puppy Wary 5.xx working on a Pentium II machine with 128 MB RAM, it ran pretty spiffy on that.
 
Oracle's whining about Java infringement continues.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...pi-packages-was-not-fair-appeals-court-rules/

The case of Oracle v. Google is Silicon Valley’s lawsuit that will seemingly never die.

On Tuesday, the US Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit ruled in favor of Oracle, finding that Google may owe billions in damages. Nearly 7.5 years after the original lawsuit was filed, the case will now be sent back down to federal court in San Francisco to figure out how much Google should pay.

"Google’s use of the Java API packages was not fair," the court ruled Tuesday.

As Ars reported back in October 2016 when the case was appealed, after Oracle purchased Sun Microsystems and acquired the rights to Java, it sued Google in 2010. Oracle claimed that Google had infringed copyrights and patents related to Java.

Eventually, this lawsuit went to trial in 2012. Oracle initially lost but had part of its case revived on appeal. The sole issue in the second trial was whether Google infringed the APIs in Java, which the appeals court held are copyrighted. In May 2016, a jury found in Google's favor after a second trial, stating that Google’s use of the APIs was protected by "fair use."

Oracle has claimed that even though its APIs are free to use, they cannot be used in competing products—the company argues that Google owes nearly $9 billion in damages as a result of using these APIs in Android.

"The fact that Android is free of charge does not make Google’s use of the Java API packages noncommercial," the Federal Circuit ruled. "Giving customers ‘for free something they would ordinarily have to buy’ can constitute commercial use."

In a statement, Dorian Daley, Oracle’s general counsel, wrote, "The Federal Circuit’s opinion upholds fundamental principles of copyright law and makes clear that Google violated the law. This decision protects creators and consumers from the unlawful abuse of their rights."

Meanwhile, Google said it is "disappointed" in the ruling.

"This type of ruling will make apps and online services more expensive for users. We are considering our options," Patrick Lenihan, a Google spokesman, emailed Ars.
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Java should be made open source, that is the only chance of it ever becomming more than a bug and leak riddled piece of code..
 
Santaman said:
Java should be made open source, that is the only chance of it ever becomming more than a bug and leak riddled piece of code..
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It has its uses, such as this.
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It just seems to have a reputation as a security risk when integrated with the browser.
 
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As far as I remember Java isn't the same as Java script which is used in browsers, I do run NoScript which blocks scripts from runninf unless you give them permission.
 
Yes, Java and Javascript are completely separate things. Java applications running in the browser was a security risk, whereas javascript seems to be necessary for many webpages to work properly.
 
Stephen! said:
Yes, Java and Javascript are completely separate things. Java applications running in the browser was a security risk, whereas javascript seems to be necessary for many webpages to work properly.
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JavaScript is also a potential security risk in its own right, of course.
 
Yeah, that is why I use Noscript, I believe javascript's track record is better than that of Java though, still, lots of code and there are always people who figure out how to missuse software.
 
Santaman said:
Yeah, that is why I use Noscript, I believe javascript's track record is better than that of Java though, still, lots of code and there are always people who figure out how to missuse software.
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JavaScript is potentially vulnerable to Spectre although I don't believe any such attacks have reported other than proof-of-concept tests.
 
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