General Computer Thread

[Santaman]

Found time to boot up the two old Athlon 64x2 machines, both Brisbane core and both have an antique Nvidia card, they did get a driver update, so far none of my Linux machines had any problems after the whole meltdown and spectre update circus.. hmm.. I have one older Intel machine a Pentium dual core E2220, also old, will see what those patches do to it, this one might actually be vulnareble to meltdown..

I've got slower machines than that.. one Sempron 145 which is a single core chip and a really old Athlon 64, socket 939 and I think Windsor core..

 

[Random_Spock]

I actually do NOT have a Windows 10 machine, I never use an OS unless M$ had put in two years of fixes, with 10 this will never happen so I avoid it like the plague, no 10 for me...

You can't switch off anything in the home edition, the best you can do to avoid spying is to run O&O windows shutup as for the update thing, unless you can get the pro version you won't have any control over them.

Exactly and it's why it's a real bitch and a pain in the ass. -_- Nothing like putting update control behind a paywall. You can slow them down for a bit or turn on a metered connection with Home version. Not exactly good options.

I'd move up but it's an arm and a leg to do so.

 

[rhubarbodendron]

oh sorry, Santy. From something you said at Terran a while ago I was under the impression that you had Win 10 and took days to de-fuse it. I must have misunderstood you.
My dad runs Win 10 and though he's an IT specialist it took him almost 2 weeks to silence the last bit of Win 10 that insisted in "phoning home" all the time. I really hate that function! On my machines all programmes must ask and get my explicit permission before they may send or receive any kind of information. No open ports, no auto-updates without me saying so. I'm a dictator, software-wise, but it pays.

 

[Santaman]

I did do some thorough research into it and came to the conclusion that it takes a real amount of effort to kill off the data sucking, yes possible, no, not easy.. option B was far easier, kick Windows off drive, install Linux, tadaa! all solved.

 

[Marc]

othing like putting update control behind a paywall.

it's not a paywall.

If you want a paywall for updates I suggest you look at HP or Oracle.

 

[Santaman]

Going from 10 home to 10 Pro will cost you money.. think that is what she's referring to.

Oracle.. is Ellis still ranting and raving about the PC being dead?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Going from 10 home to 10 Pro will cost you money.. think that is what she's referring to.

Oracle.. is Ellis still ranting and raving about the PC being dead?

At Oracle, it's all about the cloud nowadays.

 

[Santaman]

I don't put anything in any cloud, like the floaty water vapor type, clouds can vanish into thin air..

 

[Marc]

Going from 10 home to 10 Pro will cost you money.. think that is what she's referring to.

Oracle.. is Ellis still ranting and raving about the PC being dead?

But to call it a pay wall is completely an utterly incorrect and ignorant of the differences between versions and those differences exist.

I'm also not convinced that a lot of random spock's problems aren't self inflicted.

Oracle.. is Ellis still ranting and raving about the PC being dead?

I thought that was SUN back when Scott McNeely still ran it and they were trying to push the SunRay (thin client) path. Oracle was just a Software company until they bought out SUN.

the PC hasn't gone a way but larger environments it's simply become a means for VDI & terminal sevices/remote desktop.(Windows Remote Desktop/VMWare Horizon/Xen Desktop). Hell using technologies such as PCoIP even graphic intensives work such as CAD can be virtualised and shifted of the desktop.

 

[Santaman]

^^ I think it was Ellison.. something with Oracle and thin clients ruling TEH WURLDZ!

I am patching some Windows 7 machines, I've got two Phenom II machines that have been offline for a few months, the whole patch dissaster should be cleared now.. I'll see if it gets bricked after rebooting..

 

[Marc]

^^ I think it was Ellison.. something with Oracle and thin clients ruling TEH WURLDZ!

Further research shows that ellison's claim made in 1999 was that client/server was dead

https://www.theregister.co.uk/1999/06/28/client_server_is_dead_says/

others more recently have made the comment about the PC being dead.

 

[Santaman]

They have been predicting the death of the PC since IBM brought out the first one..

While I am not an expert I seriously will be pissed off if I can't have a PC anymore..

 

[Stephen!]

How are some modern hard disks sold - formatted as FAT32? Didn't FAT32 have a maximum capacity of around 4gb?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

How are some modern hard disks sold - formatted as FAT32? Didn't FAT32 have a maximum capacity of around 4gb?

The max file size is 4GiB-1. The max file system size is 16TiB for a 4KiB sector size.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table

 

[Santaman]

Usually new drives aren't formatted at all, however, FAT is often used as standard formatting for drives that need to be accesible by different OS's mainly external drives so you can connect them to Windows machines, Linux machines and Mac's etc.

 

[Marc]

Usually new drives aren't formatted at all, however, FAT is often used as standard formatting for drives that need to be accesible by different OS's mainly external drives so you can connect them to Windows machines, Linux machines and Mac's etc.

yeah I was suprised at the pre-formated drives but doubly so for using Fat32.

External drives for PCs are usually formated for NTFS (given it's been the default FS for Windows since the demise of the 9x range). I've had 3 WD external drives (1TB, 2TBx2) and all were preformed for NTFS

I can't recall if it's Western Digital or Seagate that have a native Mac format drive in their external drive range. Same as the PC one, just a different colour case but they make you pay for the privilege. Smarter to by a PC one and reformat.

 

[Santaman]

I had an older external drive which was 500Gb and it came formatted with FAT32 the damn enclosure broke so I recycled the disk for use as main HDD in one of my machines, I think the 1TB drive I bought later on was indeed NTFS formatted.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I think it's a cache related issue but every single time I open my pictures folder in Windows file explorer all the thumbnails keep being refreshed even though the files themselves have never changed.

Just wondering if there's a way to stop this happening all the time.

 

[Marc]

I think it's a cache related issue but every single time I open my pictures folder in Windows file explorer all the thumbnails keep being refreshed even though the files themselves have never changed.

Just wondering if there's a way to stop this happening all the time.

once again google is your friend.

 

[Santaman]

Sounds like a typical Windows 10 problem...