General Computer Thread

Marc · Nov 3, 2021

No Grave Found said:
Or if they use ANYTHIING from/of Google.

I’m sure they’d been enthralled seeing where I walk

Gingerbread Demon · Nov 5, 2021

No Grave Found said:
Or if they use ANYTHIING from/of Google.

Amazon Alexa says hi.

So... Has anyone switched to 11 yet?

Santaman · Nov 9, 2021

Nope, never will either.

So Intel released their new generation of chips.. well impressive that they can match the enormous powerdraw of the previous generation, yep 400 watts is again possible and that even without AVX512 and all this while now being on a smaller production node AND with those new "efficiency" cores. :wtf:

Marc · Nov 9, 2021

Santaman said:
Nope, never will either.

So Intel released their new generation of chips.. well impressive that they can match the enormous powerdraw of the previous generation, yep 400 watts is again possible and that even without AVX512 and all this while now being on a smaller production node AND with those new "efficiency" cores.

I was reading the Anadtech article and AVX512 is still there.

Supposedly Intel was going to fuse it out but haven't and the bios on some motherboards will allow it to be enabled.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1704...hybrid-performance-brings-hybrid-complexity/2

the idea of the power and economy cores is simply implementing in the x86/64 architecture what the SOC makers for cellphone have been doing on ARM for serveral years but without intel's TDP (which Anandtech measured as hitting about about 281w)

And speaking of power, another bit from the Anandtech article was Intel moving away from TDP and giving two power ratings - base and turbo (there's also infinite turbo which is the power consumed when the chip turbos up and stays there).

Santaman · Nov 9, 2021

Nah, Intel can heat it up more!

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/20.html
TDP hasn't been used in years not by AMD and certainly not by Intel but if your chip can't be cooled by a Noctua NH-U 14S then it is a very hot chip..
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-12th-gen/21.html
AVX512, officially Intel says nope, on sample chips you can indeed fiddle with that but it probably will be cut (literally) from the chips.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=alder-lake-avx512&num=1

Gingerbread Demon · Nov 9, 2021

Santaman said:
Nope, never will either.

Well I changed my mind. It was an easy transition to 11 but after a week of use I think I prefer Windows 10 so I wiped my drive and reinstalled that which was relatively painless. Only hiccup was unlocking my B drive which was encrypted, and I had forgotten the key so had to look that up.

Windows 10 will still be valid till 2025 so no plans on change.

Hey quick question why is Windows 10 encrypted on some machines and not others? I have Windows 10 home on both machines but on one it's encrypted and on the other it is not. Both machines also have a TPM module built in too.

Marc · Nov 11, 2021

youtube video on Core Memory that was the mainstay for big iron through until the 1970s.

It was this type of memory that gave rise to the term "core dump" when you OS decided to shit itself.

Santaman · Nov 11, 2021

Strong stuff, non volatile and reliable, also pretty EMP and radiation resistant.

Gingerbread Demon · Nov 11, 2021

That's really neat. But the work needed to make one memory core. Just amazing.

publiusr · Nov 13, 2021

Santaman · Nov 13, 2021

^^ Not a good idea, I mean if it would project his thougts when that really cute nurse comes in..

As for the rest, seems mainboards with Intel's B660 chipset may not have PCIE 5.0 which is actually understandable, those 690 boards are exceptionally overpriced and the PCIE 5.0 standard is utterly useless at the moment, by the time that there will actually be consumer products using PCIE 5.0's bandwith these mainboards will be obsolete already..

Santaman · Nov 15, 2021

So, dug out my old AthlonXP machine, did some maintenance and so on, the thing is running Windows XP of course and it feels just as fast and snappy as my 6 core 12 thread Ryzen 5 2600X, that one runs on 8.1. :shifty:

The Athlon of course runs period correct software which does the same thing as the stuff on the Ryzen so indeed I guess that any speed gain whatsoever is going to be negated by software bloat. :vulcan:

Deks · Nov 19, 2021

Santaman said:
So, dug out my old AthlonXP machine, did some maintenance and so on, the thing is running Windows XP of course and it feels just as fast and snappy as my 6 core 12 thread Ryzen 5 2600X, that one runs on 8.1.
The Athlon of course runs period correct software which does the same thing as the stuff on the Ryzen so indeed I guess that any speed gain whatsoever is going to be negated by software bloat.

You could have just installed Linux on that old Athlon.

Santaman · Nov 19, 2021

Nah, this machine has never been updated so it has it's a Socket A Barton core Athlon so 32bit with 1GB RAM, a Nvidia 6200 AGP card with 128MB RAM, a 160GB PATA drive, a SoundBlaster Audigy card and a 56K modem.. RAM is single channel so all in all it isn't really fast.
Besides that, it is a archive and retro gaming/software machine, a memory of the old days.
Also the whole palaver with distros becomming all 64 bit only isn't helping.. so nah, XP it is.

Malicia · Nov 19, 2021

Is this a good place to ask for advice about an old synth I'm trying to repair? I've never soldered before and wonder if replacing batteries will bring the synth back to life, It still works but over the years has got less and less reliable and now none of the controls work or if they do it's very sporadic.

Guy Gardener · Nov 19, 2021

Malicia said:
Is this a good place to ask for advice about an old synth I'm trying to repair? I've never soldered before and wonder if replacing batteries will bring the synth back to life, It still works but over the years has got less and less reliable and now none of the controls work or if they do it's very sporadic.

Google tells me that you are talking about an electric piano, but for shizzel, I thought that you were talking about a humaniform robot.

Malicia · Nov 19, 2021

Guy Gardener said:
Google tells me that you are talking about an electric piano, but for shizzel, I thought that you were talking about a humaniform robot.

Now I'm going to have Saturn 3 nightmares.

Gingerbread Demon · Nov 20, 2021

Malicia said:
Is this a good place to ask for advice about an old synth I'm trying to repair? I've never soldered before and wonder if replacing batteries will bring the synth back to life, It still works but over the years has got less and less reliable and now none of the controls work or if they do it's very sporadic.

How confident are you about repairs? I'd take the back off and just give it a visual inspection, especially cables and connectors going from board to board, you may be lucky and everything has sockets and plugs and one of them might have come loose or if it's a ribbon connector it might have a socket with a lock you can open to release the cable and seat it back again. Try something like that first, also look for damage like corrosion or anything else on the boards.

Malicia said:
Now I'm going to have Saturn 3 nightmares.

Hey I love that movie. Hector looked like an exercise gym..

Santaman · Nov 20, 2021

Malicia said:
Is this a good place to ask for advice about an old synth I'm trying to repair? I've never soldered before and wonder if replacing batteries will bring the synth back to life, It still works but over the years has got less and less reliable and now none of the controls work or if they do it's very sporadic.

No, you have to have it sorted out by a pro, if it's really old all capacitors will be shot, all contacts will be corroded and so on, it would need some real sorting out.

Marc · Nov 20, 2021

Santaman said:
No, you have to have it sorted out by a pro, if it's really old all capacitors will be shot, all contacts will be corroded and so on, it would need some real sorting out.

There's a company called Syntaur in the U.S that's got videos up on Youtube and they give an indication of whats needed with repairing old synths (though we're talking tha classics - Moog, ARP, Roland through to newer units) - then they play them

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