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Spoilers Game of Thrones: The Final Season

I forgot to mention in my review: I really enjoyed Tyrion and Jaime's final scene together. I loved Tyrion finally getting the chance to return the favor in letting his brother go and their tearful embrace. I also particularly liked how Sapochnik filmed the scene with Tyrion looming large over Jaime.
 
Found it weird that Cersei got a sympathetic final moment and Tyrion seemed so gullible. The fight with the Mountain was just depressing, I guess that futility of it all was the point but I didn’t really get what he was fighting for.

On the plus side, that dragon destruction was beautifully realized. The effects were amazing. Bring on the finale.

Glad I missed whatever was apparently spoiled.
 
The automatic negative reactions smack of entitlement, and YOU are sounding like Digific has been this entire season.

Betrayal? This is exactly the woman who has been displayed to us for seven years. She did the exact same thing to King’s Landing she has consistently done to all her enemies. Just her previous victims have been easier to hate. WE made the same error as Tyrion, Jon and Varys, we imagined what we wanted to see in her.
What automatic negative reaction? I waited until I watched the full episode and then reacted, like a normal person. What would be the appropriate waiting period to react to watching a show, m'lord? What's entitled about it? Do I have to agree with the outcome of the episode no matter what, even if I kept an open mind about it before it aired?

Digific has been complaining for weeks based on leaks and spoiling others based on those leaks, so that's pretty bullshit cheapshot trying to compare me to him, but not surprising.

Daenarys has never engaged in the wholesale slaughter of a civilian noncombatant populace before. Remember her anguish when Drogon killed a child in the field and her decision to lock up her other two dragons as a result? Is that consistent with her indiscriminately burning elderly, infirm, women and children in the streets when she had already won the battle by destroying the fleet and all the Scorpions and battlements, and the troops had surrendered? They could have had the same conflict develop between the characters with her only attacking the Red Keep, not the whole city. Not to mention her letting the Unsullied and Dothraki rape and pillage and murder, which I don't think even a distraught Grey Worm would have been okay with normally.

Then what was even the point of Jon and Arya in this episode except to stumble around in shock but not actually do anything of value?
 
That was fantastic. I loved it. Anyone who didnt know Darth Dany was coming a mile away, I am not sure what to say. It seemed clear to me. Yeah, I wished Arya had done more, but it's not like she hasn't had a great run of great moments. Don't care if Cersei was killed by a roof caving in, Arya's Needle, a sword from her brother or had her head lopped off by a Dothraki. It's all good.
 
I thought Arya had to be in the city as a witness to what Daenerys, if Jon cannot kill Daenerys than Arya will. I am sure she has just been put onto Arya’s list.

You are right. In the episode commentary the producers also said they wanted the audience to see the destruction of Kings landing through the eyes of Arya, a character the audience cares for instead of unknown citizens of the city. In that sense it was very effective.
 
What automatic negative reaction? I waited until I watched the full episode and then reacted, like a normal person. What would be the appropriate waiting period to react to watching a show, m'lord? What's entitled about it? Do I have to agree with the outcome of the episode no matter what, even if I kept an open mind about it before it aired?

Digific has been complaining for weeks based on leaks and spoiling others based on those leaks, so that's pretty bullshit cheapshot trying to compare me to him, but not surprising.

Daenarys has never engaged in the wholesale slaughter of a civilian noncombatant populace before. Remember her anguish when Drogon killed a child in the field and her decision to lock up her other two dragons as a result? Is that consistent with her indiscriminately burning elderly, infirm, women and children in the streets when she had already won the battle by destroying the fleet and all the Scorpions and battlements, and the troops had surrendered? They could have had the same conflict develop between the characters with her only attacking the Red Keep, not the whole city. Not to mention her letting the Unsullied and Dothraki rape and pillage and murder, which I don't think even a distraught Grey Worm would have been okay with normally.

Then what was even the point of Jon and Arya in this episode except to stumble around in shock but not actually do anything of value?

She expected the people of Westeros to see her as a saviour, to love her, to want to be liberated by her so she was angry when it became apparent to her that they would never accept her. Than she realised that she would have to settle with them fearing her and after she did she wanted Westerosi to fear her.
 
That was fantastic. I loved it. Anyone who didnt know Darth Dany was coming a mile away, I am not sure what to say.
There are degrees to it. I expected her to go over-the-top as a result of losing Rhaegal and Missandei and because of the truth about Jon going public and the people around her betraying her trust, and I expected that to result in conflicts between the characters.

I did not expect her to descend into full on supervillainy and wholesale slaughter of civilians after the battle was already won, and of her and Grey Worm letting her troops rape and murder because they were hurting.
 
She expected the people of Westeros to see her as a saviour, to love her, to want to be liberated by her so she was angry when it became apparent to her that they would never accept her. Than she realised that she would have to settle with them fearing her and after she did she wanted Westerosi to fear her.

Daenerys problem seems to be impatience. Also, she's not hated by the populace but she'll certainly be so now.

I wonder what all the people who named their children Khaleesi and Daenerys will think.
 
She expected the people of Westeros to see her as a saviour, to love her, to want to be liberated by her so she was angry when it became apparent to her that they would never accept her. Than she realised that she would have to settle with them fearing her and after she did she wanted Westerosi to fear her.
That and it's obvious she wasn't thinking with a clear mind. She was in deep mourning after the deaths of Jorah, Missandei, and Rhaegal.
 
I forgot to mention in my review: I really enjoyed Tyrion and Jaime's final scene together. I loved Tyrion finally getting the chance to return the favor in letting his brother go and their tearful embrace. I also particularly liked how Sapochnik filmed the scene with Tyrion looming large over Jaime.

Yeah, that was a good scene. Jamie somehow ended up with a bit more redemption in his favor than his sister. Tyrion's ending in all this, I would hope, is not a tragic one. But with this show you can never tell. LOL
 
episode 5 death list (non of it really surprising):
Varys
Jaime
Cersei
Euron
Mountain
Hound
Qybrun
 
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Daenerys problem seems to be impatience. Also, she's not hated by the populace but she'll certainly be so now.

I wonder what all the people who named their children Khaleesi and Daenerys will think.

I think anyone who called their daughters Khaleesi or Daenerys get what they deserve though I do feel sorry for the little girls.
 
Overall I thought this was a very good episode. Of course, a lot hinges on whether you buy into the Mad Queen. I feel like they've set that up sufficiently over the course of the series so it seemed logical to me. Ever since the beginning she was talking about get the throne back that was stolen from her family. There was entitlement and anger. She also lost her closest advisors. They either died or betrayed her. She's in a lonely spot. It's also clear that she's grown to accustomed to the power that the dragons give her too. She wasn't even emotional when they burned Varys. So, I'm down with the fact that given the recent events a switch got flipped in her head during the heat of the battle. Tyrion and Jon was tricked by this, and so were many viewers, but not Varys.

I'll echo some comments about being disappointed in Jamie and his arc with Cersei. He seemed to be on a course for redemption, but he wasn't. He chose Cersei in the end. I can live with that but it doesn't seem to fit. They were basically codependent on each other.

I loved the moment with the Hound and Arya. Awesome way to end their story together. His battle with the Mountain was good as well.

I do think Arya will attempt to kill Dany. She wasn't wasted in this story. She brought to life the death and fear of those on the ground. And, I think she'll use those experiences to add one more person to her list.

It seems like there a lot, maybe too much to wrap up in the one remaining episode. Oops! It's hard to imagine a real satisfying ending.
 
There are degrees to it. I expected her to go over-the-top as a result of losing Rhaegal and Missandei and because of the truth about Jon going public and the people around her betraying her trust, and I expected that to result in conflicts between the characters.

I did not expect her to descend into full on supervillainy and wholesale slaughter of civilians after the battle was already won, and of her and Grey Worm letting her troops rape and murder because they were hurting.
"Letting"? I don't think that's a fair assessment. More like everything went straight to hell when Daenerys started burning everything and no one was under control of anything. You saw Jon trying to get his men to pull back to no avail, right?
 
She expected the people of Westeros to see her as a saviour, to love her, to want to be liberated by her so she was angry when it became apparent to her that they would never accept her. Than she realised that she would have to settle with them fearing her and after she did she wanted Westerosi to fear her.
They would have feared her from the fact that she defeated her enemies in ten minutes with her dragon. She didn't need the subsequent slaughter. The dead can't fear you.
 
Dear magic 8ball

Will arya be a badass terminator this week or a whimpering mouse?


*shake shake shake*

Whimpering mouse.
 
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