Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)
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This whole Tower of Joy stuff - was there ever anything about it in the show before? 'cause if it wasn't for the internet, I'd have no freakin' clue what was going on. I mean, folks are saying how could the father be anyone but Rheagar, and I'm thinkin' what the hell is a Rheagar? That's one problem with adapting books to series or movies. If you just throw shit in from the book without giving any background, the folks who never read the books just sit there feeling stupid. You shouldn't make your audience feel like they missed something.
Unfortunately it will be his body saying back "No, fuck you!" When he has his heart attack or stroke from many years of bad living.
Yes all of the background to the Tower of Joy scene, including who Rheagar was, has been in the show since the first season, and it's brought up again a few times throughout the show. You just have to pay attention/remember it, although that's not always easy to do, in the books or the show, without the writers beating you over the head saying "hey, remember this!"
Very true, especially with only 10 eps a year and 40 weeks between seasons. Six years later it ain't easy to remember something from s1. I guess when it's all over, the wife and I will have to get the series boxed set and do a binge-watch.
Damn, Jordan was only 58 when he died!
Jordan died of a very rare heart condition, to be fair.
As for people not knowing what's going on in the show, a lot of it does come down to not paying attention, because even with the long gap between seasons, every episode features clips from previous episodes that are relevant to what we're about to watch. The "previously on..." segment of the season finale featured this rather important scene, for example:
As for people not knowing what's going on in the show, a lot of it does come down to not paying attention, because even with the long gap between seasons, every episode features clips from previous episodes that are relevant to what we're about to watch. The "previously on..." segment of the season finale featured this rather important scene, for example:
My feeling on Littlefinger's plan is to throw everyone at the Walkers in a way that humans win but all their armies are decimated except his and all leaders killed.
So he takes King's Landing on his own when all the other armies are committed at the wall.
So he takes King's Landing on his own when all the other armies are committed at the wall.
The fact that he's a bastard isn't in and of itself an impediment to his claiming the Iron Throne*, but you're right that his legal status doesn't change just because his 'true' parentage has been confirmed for the benefit of those watching the series.
* Several English monarchs during the Middle Ages were bastards, the most notable being William the Conqueror, Elizabeth the First, and Mary, Queen of Scots.
I don't why the hell you guys are still arguing about Jon's parentage when it doesn't matter the least little bit. The Lords of the North just raised their swords and proclaimed him King of the North, and by default Lord of Winterfell. That's what he will be as long as he can stay alive and win his battles. Swords > parentage
HBO and individuals directly involved with the show had no compunctions with revealing/confirming Jon's paternity in chart form, meaning that if there were intended to be any change in Jon's legal status, said information most likely would've been included in the same chart that revealed/confirmed the identity of his father.
With all of the talk about Jon's claim to the Iron Throne because of his supposed parentage, I'm left wondering one simple fact: How does he prove it once he finds out?
Who will believe Bran is a greenseer who has the ability to see keenly into the past and saw the scene in the Tower of Joy? The only living person to know the truth is Howland Reed, a low-level lord who has been hiding during the recent war. Why would anyone take his word for it? Maybe some lords of the North who know he was a close friend of Ned, but that's it. Littlefinger may suspect the truth, but he has no proof of it, and he would only use it to give himself the the upper hand.
But yes, they're both utterly ruthless.
Who will believe Bran is a greenseer who has the ability to see keenly into the past and saw the scene in the Tower of Joy? The only living person to know the truth is Howland Reed, a low-level lord who has been hiding during the recent war. Why would anyone take his word for it? Maybe some lords of the North who know he was a close friend of Ned, but that's it. Littlefinger may suspect the truth, but he has no proof of it, and he would only use it to give himself the the upper hand.
I'm also disappointed that Jack Bender is not one of them, but not too disappointed since he already generally ruled it out anyways.
Servalan was overconfident, yes, but often her undoing was the uncanny abilities of Blake, Avon and the rest. Cersei's actions are often foolish from the onset.
But yes, they're both utterly ruthless.
Both of those are great and so is the one of Cersei dressed up as Maria von Trump, dancing in front of the Great Sept exploding.Anyhoo, some great Cersei memes showing up on Facebook this week.
"I'm here to love my children and blow shit up!
And I'm all out of children!"
"Separation of church and state -
Level: expert."
Proof isn't that important.
To get the throne you only need a story and a power base to back it up.
Who's to say Daenerys isn't just some random albino chick from Essos?
Her claim also only rests on a couple of people's word she is who she says she is.
It's not her legit claim that'll get her the pointy seat, it's her army and her dragons.
Which individuals?
The extensive spy network that has tracked her so extensively for so long.
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