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Game Of Thrones Season 6 Discussion (Spoilers)

If a bluff, it's a very dangerous one, to put a child in the hands of Ramsay but I also thought that Shaggy Dog looked a bit smaller than Ghost or Grey Wolf. Could this be a Baelish ruse?
Possibly. Shaggydog was also the fiercest and wildest of all the direwolves, so much so that his wildness was supposed to be getting imbued in Rickon - more prevalent in the books, but we saw a little hint of that when Bran was still in charge at Winterfell and Rickon was absentmindedly smashing walnuts with a rock at the head table in the main audience hall - wasn't just a kid being bored, either. Of all the wolves, I find it most difficult to believe that Shaggydog would have been beaten by any number of humans in a fight. Yes, this does feel like an interesting kind of Trojan Horse.
 
This was episode 53. The producers have said they want to do 73 episodes total. So there are 20 episodes left. I think it is going to be a wild ride.
 
Woah! In 3X5 Arya meets a guy who's been killed and resurrected six times! I totally forgot that part. And the guy worships the Lord of Light like Melisandre. So how come he can do it so easily all the way back then?
 
Mel didn't think she could do it because that wasn't a part of her training. She had other skills. She knew of others who could do it (like Thoros) but she had doubts about herself. The fact that she was successful at doing something like that without the training that Thoros received implies that doing such things may be getting easier for people with similar aptitude and/or belief system.
 
Thoros didn't do it on purpose and he was neither a great priest nor terribly faithful. He was doing funeral rights out of a lack of anything better to do in the case of people dying and inadvertently breathed life back into Ser Berric. The implication being that those rights and traditions were rooted in old magic that had been long forgotten.
 
Thoros is the guy from 3X5? Is he also from Asshai like Mel, which is a ridiculous name for a place and reads like Asshat?

If there's a whole society of people over there who can ressurect people over and over, why isn't this a bigger part of the story? Why wouldn't every King keep one of these guys around to bring them back when they get killed?
 
Thoros wasn't expecting the resurrection to happen and Melisandre wasn't really expecting it to work either. so it is not a reliable thing and these two events seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
 
After the first time yes, but he wasn't actively trying the first time. and Melisandres reaction to seeing this was just to think that it shouldn't be possible.
It might also be worth remembering that Thoros took the view that it is not him doing this, but rather the lord of light acting through him. how accurate this assessment is we do not know, but the point is that they do not seem to fully understand themselves how it is that they are bringing people back to life.
 
Take Cersei, for example. She's obsessed with protecting her children and a witch told her as a child that all her children would die. Wouldn't she be moving heaven and earth to get one of these magicians under lock and key?
 
It doesn't seem like the resurrection power that publicly known. Melisandre didn't know about it before she encountered Thoros' handy work. which would indicate that even amongst the practitioners of this faith that this is not a well known phenomena. it is quite possible that the only instances of this ever happening are those we have seen on the show.
There is also a possibility (not to sure about it, but it is worth considering) that when he said that it was the lord of light that was doing all the work, he might be right. it could be that there is some form of deity that is deciding to allow these people to be resurrected.
 
There is also the possibility that R'h'llor has no powers so close to the wall, being the dominion of the Old Gods, which still seem to be quite active further north with the Children of the Forest and TEC's tree-net. This world feels like it's divided into "territories" where the various gods have influence in one place but not another. It's possible that, after all her speaking ritualistically in Old Valyrian produced no results (Thoros' resurrections of Beric were almost instantaneous further south) her simple whisper of "please" at the end may have unintentionally acquired the attention of an entirely different deity.
 
So, is the ending battle of the series going to be a bunch of fifty story tall gods duking it out then? :ouch:
 
Not literally. All the players involved seem to be entangled in a grand celestial chess game, possibly as a proxy war for higher beings. Starting to feel like TOS Battlestar Galactica, actually. And the intro "god's eye" montage panning across a mechanical map of the world at the beginning of each episode may have been a clever hint as to what's really been going on all along.
 
Given the general direction of the show thus far, and the general "realism", I'd be really surprised if it really did become about literal gods at work.

Another shocking moment in my rewatch! Melisandre MEETS the guy who resurrected that guy six times! He tells her he lost his faith and didn't believe it would work, but it did, that the Lord of Light is working through him. It all really speaks to what happens with Mel and Jon Snow at the start of Season 6!
 
I do think the show is going to come down to EVERYONE vs the Night King. The petty battling over the throne has to quit at some point. I don't know how the Lord of Light or the Seven or the Old Gods or the Drowned Gods are going to play into this, though. I think all the religions are a misdirection.
 
GRRM posted a new chapter on his website, and I'm sure it's not a coincidence that it's part of a storyline that the show isn't going to cover.:lol: He cracks me up...
 
Rather than spending 5 years to publish a 1000 page book, why doesn't he just publish a 500 page book every 2.5 years?
 
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