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Spoilers Game Of Thrones’ Spinoff ‘House Of The Dragons’ ordered to series

Anybody else kinda surprised at how stupid Allicent acted? I mean I get it, she's a mother and they hurt her child...but was she really expecting the King to allow her to take the eye of one of his grandsons, who are also 3rd and 4th in line for the throne? And then she attacked the heir to the throne.
She's lucky that King Viserys was always amicable and became even more passive with age. I'm pretty sure some Targaryen kings would have had her eye (or head) for that.
 
Loved it.

Anybody else kinda surprised at how stupid Allicent acted? I mean I get it, she's a mother and they hurt her child...but was she really expecting the King to allow her to take the eye of one of his grandsons, who are also 3rd and 4th in line for the throne? And then she attacked the heir to the throne.

It did surprise me at first, but these resentments have been simmering for a long time - years of frustration, fear and anger just boil over.

Allicent has played the dutiful wife and done as was expected of her in the bed chamber, all while Rhaenyra remains favored and untouchable, in spite of the fact she flagrantly breaks every rule with the confidence Viserys will continue to turn a blind eye (sorry Aemond),

Her anger is amplified because she already knows that - as per usual - things will probably go Rhaenyra's way.
 
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That and it frees up Laenor to do his own thing. Laenor wanted to escape his father’s control and the ambitions Corlys had for him. Laenor had no interest in being wed to Rhaenyra and spent his time whoring and drinking during their marriage. Laenor wanted to be a fighting on the high seas again. But his oath to Rhaenyra held him back.

The book Fire and Blood is narrated by 3 different people. So there’s no one truth. This change allows the show runners to have their cake and eat it too.

A staged fake death and everyone walks away with what they wanted. Except the poor schmuck Ser Qarl killed.

Actually, it was Daemon who killed him.
 
Jez, the episode took so long to get going. Only the last 5 minutes were interesting. I almost stopped watching and was ready to bail on the series for good. The producers seem to think they are spinning gold with these self aggrandizing, long, drawn out scenes and think it's something more than it actually is. The only surprising thing about ' House of the Dragon' is that the King is still around. Who to root for? I don't like any of these characters.
 
Something I've been wondering...could it be that Haelena has some precognitive abilities?
I watched the episode again with the subtitles on and her rambling as she plays with the spider is;
Hand turns loom; spool of green spool of black. Dragons of flesh weave dragons of thread.
Is she seeing the upcoming civil war, the extinction of dragons and possibly the Daenerys' mummer's dragon vision that was left out of the TV show?

And: I also just remembered that last episode when Aemond said he would have a dragon, Haelena said "He'll have to close an eye"
Yeop...girl can see the future to some degree.
 
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Given how the first episode made a point of pointing out the dream of "The Song of Ice and Fire" I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's what their intention was.

And... I can't remember, did Viserys mention that it was a dream of the death of Old Valyria that led the family to come to Dragonstone/Westeros in the first place? Some Targs having minor foresight via dreams is pretty well-established.
 
And... I can't remember, did Viserys mention that it was a dream of the death of Old Valyria that led the family to come to Dragonstone/Westeros in the first place? Some Targs having minor foresight via dreams is pretty well-established.
I can't remember whether it was mentioned on either show, but I think it was a Targaryen lady called "Daenys the Dreamer"who foresaw the destruction of Valyria in her dreams (hence the name) and that was (one of?) the reasons the Targaryens left for Dragonstone. So having visions of the future definitely seems like it's something Valyrian.
Then again, visions of the future seem to be somewhat common in the Song of Ice and Fire universe.

Edit: Daenys, not Daenerys
 
It's interesting that they basically lured us genre fans into watching a royal court drama by including dragons that aren't actually even integral to the story :)

If this was about the Tudors how many of us would still be watching with the same excitement?
 
It's interesting that they basically lured us genre fans into watching a royal court drama by including dragons that aren't actually even integral to the story :)

If this was about the Tudors how many of us would still be watching with the same excitement?

The court drama in King's Landing was my favourite thing about GoT, to such an extend that I watched shows like the Tudors and the Borgias in-between seasons of GoT to help with the "Got withdrawal" so to say.
In comparison I found Arya's and (especially) Jon's stories rather dull, Daenerys' too once she got stranded in Mereen.
Sure I was look g forward to the epic war for the dawn we were all expecting take place at the end of the show, and was very disappointed at how lame and rushed and nonsensical it ended up being, but until that was going to happen the show could have been just about KL as far as I was concerned.
 
The court drama in King's Landing was my favourite thing about GoT, to such an extend that I watched shows like the Tudors and the Borgias in-between seasons of GoT to help with the "Got withdrawal" so to say.
In comparison I found Arya's and (especially) Jon's stories rather dull, Daenerys' too once she got stranded in Mereen.
Sure I was look g forward to the epic war for the dawn we were all expecting take place at the end of the show, and was very disappointed at how lame and rushed and nonsensical it ended up being, but until that was going to happen the show could have been just about KL as far as I was concerned.
Looks like you finally got what you wanted then.
 
Looks like you finally got what you wanted then.

In a "monkey's paw" kinda way. I don't find the characters as interesting as those in GoT (yet) and the show hasn't gripped me yet either, maybe it was the time skip. Maybe it will when those are over.
GoT didn't really grip me until Blackwater either (those scenes with Sansa and Cersei in the Red Keep during the battle was what made me a real fan of GoT)
I mean the show is entertaining and good enough, but I'm not at the "Hell yeah! Another episode!" point.

As for the Dragons. Without spoilering anything, they will become more important.
 
In a "monkey's paw" kinda way. I don't find the characters as interesting as those in GoT (yet) and the show hasn't gripped me yet either, maybe it was the time skip. Maybe it will when those are over.
GoT didn't really grip me until Blackwater either (those scenes with Sansa and Cersei in the Red Keep during the battle was what made me a real fan of GoT)
I mean the show is entertaining and good enough, but I'm not at the "Hell yeah! Another episode!" point.

As for the Dragons. Without spoilering anything, they will become more important.
Are the timejumps ever going to be over? This show is basically based on an encyclopedia...
 
Are the timejumps ever going to be over? This show is basically based on an encyclopedia...

Didn't they say something about the last one was going to be the last? I'm not really an expert about the timeline of the Dance of Dragons, but I could have sworn I've read it somewhere.
 
Didn't they say something about the last one was going to be the last? I'm not really an expert about the timeline of the Dance of Dragons, but I could have sworn I've read it somewhere.
I think we are due for at least one more time jump. They still have to introduce Rhaenyra and Daemon's children, Aegon III and Viserys II. This coming episode may be the final time jump, given how much Aegon II and Aemond have aged. During the Dance of Dragons, Aemond was 20 and Aegon II was 22/23.
 
I just got the book Fire & Blood which the show is based on. I plan to read it on my off day. Glancing through the content list, i realized that HotD could be made in an anthology type of show if the producers want it. The Targaryen invasion of Westeros and subsequent failure to conquer Dorne are interesting aspects of the book that could retold in this TV series. Their slow decline after the Dance of the Dragon and the following Blackfyre Rebellions that hastened their eventual fall could also be explored hopefully in the show as a part of an anthology.
 
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I think we are due for at least one more time jump. They still have to introduce Rhaenyra and Daemon's children, Aegon III and Viserys II. This coming episode may be the final time jump, given how much Aegon II and Aemond have aged. During the Dance of Dragons, Aemond was 20 and Aegon II was 22/23.

Sorry, I mistyped, yeah I meant the next one will be the last. Then all the characters should be at the right ages afaik.
 
Anybody else kinda surprised at how stupid Allicent acted? I mean I get it, she's a mother and they hurt her child...but was she really expecting the King to allow her to take the eye of one of his grandsons, who are also 3rd and 4th in line for the throne? And then she attacked the heir to the throne.
She's lucky that King Viserys was always amicable and became even more passive with age. I'm pretty sure some Targaryen kings would have had her eye (or head) for that.

No, I wasn't surprised. If Rhaenyra had done it, I wouldn't have been surprised, either. Anyone is capable of losing control of his or her emotions before committing a stupid and/or dangerous act.
 
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