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Spoilers Game Of Thrones’ Spinoff ‘House Of The Dragons’ ordered to series

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Initially I was very meh on the whole House of the Dragon idea since it's been published in book form so many times. However, the changes the tv show has made is making it superior to the books. I like it and I'm really curious to see how the rest gets pulled off.
 
I rather enjoyed this one despite myself, particularly Rhaenyra's story. I figured she and Ser Criston would see the white stag during their separate outing, even before the hunt caught a different stag.

Poor Viserys. I know that wine hangover all too well. :lol:

I am a little disappointed that Daemon's war with the Crabfeeder ended so quickly. I was intrigued by the character even if he had no lines, but that lack of dialogue was portentous. That said, I loved Daemon's ballsy means of drawing him out, even if he was motivated solely to prevent his brother from helping him.
 
Three hours in and we really haven’t covered much ground. I’m going ask you all who have read the books, is there a reason the plot is going this slowly? Is there some good stuff coming up?
 
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You know you've reached peak fantasy, when you bring in the White Stags.
You see them hanging out in the strangest places. Jivin' in the dives where well fed faces.

From the Lantern Wastes of Narnia ~The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe~
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Deep within Mirkwood on Middle-Earth. ~Desolation of Smaug~
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In the center of the Forbidden Forest outside of Hogwarts. ~Prisoner of Azkaban~
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The edge of the Dark Forest in the Enchanted Dominion. ~Snow White and the Huntsman~
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The Kingswood of Westeros. ~House of the Dragon~
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Catch one and they may grant you wish. They bestow blessings to those worthy. Can act as guides to the lost (geographically and spiritually). Protect the vulnerable animals and travelers in the forest.

Lantern Wastes, G̶r̶e̶e̶n̶w̶o̶o̶d̶ Mirwood, Dark Forest, Forbidden Forest. The only non-sinister sounding place to find these stags is in Westeros, surprisingly.


The Dragon Queen Is Coming: Take Two. Speed and Marker.
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I'm glad Crabby McCrab Face is wrapped up.

I'm assuming / hoping they put the brakes on these time jumps once Emma D’Arcy takes over. It's a little jarring becoming invested in story developments only to hop in the TARDIS and sneak ahead.
 
I am so curious how viewers are going to respond to that.
I'm looking forward to seeing the cast take their final form, but I was an instant fan of Alcock - great actress with loads of charisma. So while I have mixed feelings about the switch, I don't think they've put a foot wrong with any of the casting so far.
 
Three hours in and we really haven’t covered much ground. I’m going ask you all who have read the books, is there a reason the plot is going this slowly? Is there some good stuff coming up?

This is really just the prelude to the coming war, which only breaks out after Viserys dies and the resulting succession crisis. The start is still (if we're using Martin's timeline) 21 years in the future.

I don't want to give too much away, but the split you believe you see in the early episodes is not the core one of the civil war, and different alliances will begin to be seen. Including some squicky stuff.
 
Having totally lost track of the literary side, I didn't know this was based on a book.

It is and it isn't.

The basic timline of The Dance of Dragons was originally outlined in a chapter of Martin's book The World of Ice and Fire, and then expanded in Fire and Blood. However, both books are written as if they're authored by historians within the universe. They are not novels, they are semi-dry textbook accounts.

Thus the "what" is pretty well established as a basic plot outline. However, the author within universe relies upon three biased sources for his own history (a septon, a maester, and a jester), and has his own biases, so it's very much an "unreliable narrator" kinda situation.
 
It is and it isn't.

The basic timline of The Dance of Dragons was originally outlined in a chapter of Martin's book The World of Ice and Fire, and then expanded in Fire and Blood. However, both books are written as if they're authored by historians within the universe. They are not novels, they are semi-dry textbook accounts.

Thus the "what" is pretty well established as a basic plot outline. However, the author within universe relies upon three biased sources for his own history (a septon, a maester, and a jester), and has his own biases, so it's very much an "unreliable narrator" kinda situation.
Essentially a Westerosi Silmarillion but with more drawings.
 
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The time jumps really hurts the show IMO. The entire Crabfeeder story is meh because we know nothing about him really.

I don't mind - he was a story device to push Daemon's story and we have seen this a ton in Game of Thrones - Drogo is a story device to build Daenerys' character, Robb Stark dies to further the plot as well as Nedd Stark and so on.
 
They've talked about the older actors wearing some aging makeup, so we must be jumping ahead some decades to heavy action scenes. I think we'll be getting an entirely new story next year.
 
They've talked about the older actors wearing some aging makeup, so we must be jumping ahead some decades to heavy action scenes. I think we'll be getting an entirely new story next year.

The story has a set ending which is already known. My guess is they plan to wrap the whole thing up in three seasons, and the first season will be pretty much nothing other than the setup for the civil war and the inciting action. The war will take up seasons 2-3.

Some of the decisions they made in aging the characters up/down make very little sense, given everything has to take place across 30+ years of time, though it may be because they're trying to find a "median" age in terms of the casting. Like Viserys is supposed to be under 30 when his wife dies (his daughter is younger in the books than Allicent, more like 10 to her 17). But they seem to have wanted to play up that Allicent and Rhaenyra as friends, so they aged her up, and then aged him up? Leads to a creepy aspect to the marriage which wasn't really intended (since a 50ish guy marring a 15 year old instead of a 12 year old doesn't really seem noble).

Corlys is supposed to be nearly 80 by the end of his arc, so Steve Toussaint undoubtedly will need to be aged up a bit.
 
I have not read up on the story but so far i'm not impressed by the general direction of it because it lacks a certain grand quality.

So by episode 3 it is pretty clear where it's headed - Viserys is a weak king, will die soon and then it's a grand civil war between Rhaenerys, Daemon and maybe a third faction somewhere that still needs a proper buildup. We'll see big CGI dragon battles and at the end a Targaryen will win and continue the line until GoT comes into play and Robert Baratheon unseats the Targaryens and assumes power.

I really hope they don't drag this out too much by padding out the general story with their own writing - this general storyline really doesn't seem to have more meat for more than 3 seasons, at least for the uninitated like me.

It may be unfair to always compare it to GoT but that story has set up so many more interesting characters and a much broader scope in its first season and i just don't see that happening for HoD. As i said if they limit themselves to a few seasons it will be ok but it most likely will never be the phenomenon GoT was ( but what could?).
 
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