At the time Nemesis was being filmed, I don't believe they thought it was going to be the last TNG movie. Also, remember that the director and screenwriter had nothing to do with the previous TNG films.
Frakes up for more TNG
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Here's my thoughts (concurrent thread)
i thought i remembered Nemesis being hyped as the last movie with the TNG crew as the release approached (or maybe everyone knew it'd suck
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True, but it does seem that in general in TNG movies they didn't seem particularly keen on shaking up the status quo. And even when it did happen 'off screen' (well off cinema screen at least) with Worf they movies just ignored this.
i thought i remembered Nemesis being hyped as the last movie with the TNG crew as the release approached (or maybe everyone knew it'd suck
Yep, I seem to remember that too. Although it could be that they didn't go into the project with this idea, and it dawned gradually after the writing was long done.
I thought that as well. But, all the most profitable movies have all been sci-fi and fantasy, except for Titanic. It will be a tall order for a Star Trek movie, and a lot has to do with timing of release. But I think it's in the cards. Retro-cool with a younger cast.
True, but it does seem that in general in TNG movies they didn't seem particularly keen on shaking up the status quo. And even when it did happen 'off screen' (well off cinema screen at least) with Worf they movies just ignored this.
i thought i remembered Nemesis being hyped as the last movie with the TNG crew as the release approached (or maybe everyone knew it'd suck
Yep, I seem to remember that too. Although it could be that they didn't go into the project with this idea, and it dawned gradually after the writing was long done.
I remember the tag line in all the ads was "A Generations Final Journey Begins" which could either imply this is the first movie of the final journey of the TNG crew including any sequels or that Nemesis will be the last journey for TNG.
that's right! it's right on the cover of the dvd, for crying out loud!
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/4/4b/Star_Trek_Nemesis_DVD_cover.jpg
I don't think they meant that this would be part 1 of a 2 (or 3) part ending, though. altho, it would be cool if they did
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
Then the remake movie should not be released.....didn't the writers say this movie could be seen as an alternate universe/mirror universe film?
Siwilliams
Fleet Captain
I don't think anyone was saying release a TNG film the theatres at the same time but rather air it on tv
I'm always careful not to combine sci-fi and fantasy when discussing these things. Movies like Dark Night or even LOTR have very little in common with space movies.
Naturallly, Star Wars is a valid comparison, but that's more the exception than the rule. Star Trek, until Nemesis, has always been profitable. But, mainly because they knew their limitations and were careful not to overspend their audience. JJ chucked that thinking right out the window.
Having seen the new trailer, I still see very little about this movie that says it can make $150m. The average person on the street still doesn't have a clue who any of these actors are (with the possible exception of Quinto). And, while the first few seconds do an adequate job of confusing people about the topic of the movie, I suspect most people zoned out as soon as the kid said James Tiberius Kirk.
Add in the fact that you have Wolverine to compete with. Not to mention a number of fantasy films that will compete for those dollars, inclucing Chistian Bale as John Connor.
Too much competition. Unpopular franchise. Unknown actors. Depressed economy. None of that screams box office success.
i don't think they did -- i thought they were saying it would not be a reboot for all intensive purposes. but, if they did, i'm sure this 'alternate/mirror universe' will be quite different from the mirror universe we've been exposed to in years past. my main point being that the characters will be themselves and not their opposites or 'mirrors.' if the writers said it would be an 'alternate/mirror universe' they probably used the term 'mirror' as in 'similar to' and not 'opposite of.'
No No and NOOOOOOOOO!
No fanwank. No crossovers. If this is what you got, then Trek 1.0 is not just merely dead, but is is most sincere.ly dead! J.J. Abrams' Trek is going to be Trek from now on. Let all that has come before rest!
Exactly. A 24th century era miniseries annually at least.
TNG did have "Parallels" though, which was MU-ish (and a lot better imo than any MU episode)
I just watched the DVD extras on Nemesis, and all the interviews with the cast and crew made it pretty obvious that that movie was intended as a sendoff and their last film (although Stewart hinted slightly at the possibility of another)
Count me in! I would buy it day one!
hellsgate
Commodore
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Why not a Thomas Riker story, as James T. Kirk's newest Executive Officer? After all, if Bruce Wayne can have a much younger partner / protege, Terry McGillis ("Batman: Beyond"), why can't we see a conclusive wrap-up of the adventures of Thomas Riker in the "Star Trek: Titan" era, as Kirk's newest grumbling sidekick?
Why not a Thomas Riker story, as James T. Kirk's newest Executive Officer? After all, if Bruce Wayne can have a much younger partner / protege, Terry McGillis ("Batman: Beyond"), why can't we see a conclusive wrap-up of the adventures of Thomas Riker in the "Star Trek: Titan" era, as Kirk's newest grumbling sidekick?
Probabaly not. I think the only way we'll see the 24th Century again is through the Trek 2.0 Abrams is firing up. We'll see Riker again. But he probabaly won't be portrayed by the Bearded White Whale.
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