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News Foundation Adaptation Series Officially Ordered by Apple

I see I was right about Day and "Chekhov's gun". Only partially right about the fate of the First Foundationers. The epilogue scene is perhaps meant to be set on Earth as the Galactic Empire seems to be unaware of its existence.
 
good finale, tough I'm not looking forward to the whole Mule storyline nor Gaal.

My favorite characters are now all dead...
Salvor,
Hober, Bel Rios

If that was it, without the Mule stuff in the end, it could have been a decent open ended series finale with plenty of conclusions for characters and arc, while leaving some open and starting new ones.

If it gets remewed I'll probably watch the trailer and to decide whether to continue or not.
 
To be fair, none of those three survive long in the original novels. The first two die of natural causes and Riose is executed by the Emperor. Gaal Dornick is only in the first story and not heard of again.

I'm wondering who built the "magic" Time Vault as it was already on Terminus when the Foundationers arrived. I suspect some other party is working in the background that we have yet to encounter. There might also be some causality paradox going on. The end point is fixed, but the path to get there isn't - sort of like a Feynman path integral.
 
I'm wondering who built the "magic" Time Vault as it was already on Terminus when the Foundationers arrived. I suspect some other party is working in the background that we have yet to encounter.

While there's likely another faction somewhere out there, we saw where the Time Vault came from at the end of the first season in a flashback, Dr. Seldon explained the whole thing as part of his sermon. When original Hari was buried in space on the Deliverance, his body and coffin was the "seed" for the Vault, raw material for nanobots he'd ingested just prior to being killed. It went ahead of the ship, collecting material from space, growing and reconfiguring itself and landing on Terminus.

It's likely the Vault also fed on the material and energy from Terminus being destroyed when it collected all the people from the planet, since its outside was bigger than it had been before.
 
I really enjoyed this season over the first, which was okay at best for me. I'm not like a Foundation novels superfan or anything but I was still kinda offput by how wildly different the first season was from the source material. I really like that it took the second season to go completely bonkers to get me hooked on this show, though. I really enjoyed the last ten weeks and can't wait for more! Great characters, great story, great visuals. This was just really great scifi that feels like scifi (albeit magic scifi, but I'm never against that).
 
Dr. Seldon gave it to Day during their meeting in the Vault. The last time we saw it, he was carrying it when he and Demerzel were walking to their shuttle to leave Terminus. He must've put it down or handed it to Demerzel for safekeeping off-screen, since neither of them were holding it when they got back to the Destiny.

Goyer's blog post on the episode includes an epilogue scene from the end of the episode that they couldn't film for budget reasons. It's the capper on Poly's arc, so it's worth reading.

Thanks, my memory sometimes frizzes out on stuff like this.

The blog post was interesting too, it was evident that Poly's faith was gone but still nice to read about the intended closure scene for him. I liked his character very much.
 
While there's likely another faction somewhere out there, we saw where the Time Vault came from at the end of the first season in a flashback, Dr. Seldon explained the whole thing as part of his sermon. When original Hari was buried in space on the Deliverance, his body and coffin was the "seed" for the Vault, raw material for nanobots he'd ingested just prior to being killed. It went ahead of the ship, collecting material from space, growing and reconfiguring itself and landing on Terminus.

It's likely the Vault also fed on the material and energy from Terminus being destroyed when it collected all the people from the planet, since its outside was bigger than it had been before.
Ah yes, I forgot about that. Somehow he seems to have had access to more advanced technology than Empire. With such tech, they could have easily rebuilt the star bridge as well as the orbital rings.
 
This was just really great scifi that feels like scifi
I was just thinking about that. There was a time when sci-fi TV shows were just generic TV shows with a little sci-fi dressing.

Because those who made them were convinced that viewers could not understand concepts that were too difficult (Hello Buck Rogers!)
 
Well, they are definitely taking things in their own direction more and more.

Some people earlier were saying that Harry on Ignis was confirmed android. I missed that? I never saw him anything but human?
 
Well, they are definitely taking things in their own direction more and more.

Some people earlier were saying that Harry on Ignis was confirmed android. I missed that? I never saw him anything but human?

Turns out he’s probably a clone. Gaal just used psychic fuckery to trick everyone in thinking he was dead.
 
Turns out he’s probably a clone. Gaal just used psychic fuckery to trick everyone in thinking he was dead.

Yeah, I got that, I was confused because reading through people were saying it was confirmed he was a robot and I do not remember that at all. People just jumped the gun then? There wasn't something I missed?

Tellem Bond did not realize that this Hari Seldon is an android. She could not read his mind In the previous episode. That should have been a clue for her or maybe androids are long forgotten by most already.

It does seem possible that how he will come to realise that he is not a clone like the Cleons will come about as a result of how he escapes his current predicament. His consciousness would be running on a positronic brain rather than a flesh and blood one.
 
I'm curious about Gaal's comment that she would need one Hari Seldon to face off against another Hari Seldon. Do the Seldons assume they will end up as adversaries? It would partly explain why Vault Seldon got rid of his surveillance device (aka the Prime Radiant).
 
Yeah, I got that, I was confused because reading through people were saying it was confirmed he was a robot and I do not remember that at all. People just jumped the gun then? There wasn't something I missed?
I did state it was only one possibility given the clues. No-one here is psychic. I can guarantee that. Sometimes we get lucky. Sometimes we don't read the tea leaves/crystal ball/prime radiant correctly.
 
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I just want to say that the kiwi actor who played Tellam Bond did a damn good job. She appears caring and kind at first but eventually reveals her evil and dark nature. Damn good acting. Too bad, she will not be appearing in season 3.
 
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I'm enjoying this show. Completely different from the novels, also not entirely coherent, but both are OK.

Lee Pace (Brother Day) is hitting it out of the park, and they're making the intrigue in the imperial court quite engaging. I've also enjoyed Isabella Laughland (Brother Constant). Really, the whole cast is doing great.

The show's also visually impressive. For me, the visual highlights remain the depictions of the the rings of Synnax in various weather and lighting conditions from the ocean surface, but the visuals have been consistently outstanding all along.
 
I'm amazed it took so long to announce the renewal. There were reports of principal photography beginning back in late May.
 
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