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If you believe anonymous burner accounts and bots over people you can actually communicate with then sure. Here you can talk with people who are watching it and get a variety of opinions.

So you don't believe review bombing is a thing and all numbers on websites must be true because no one would dare lie on the internet? Sometimes something good will indeed have good numbers but prerelease hate campaigns and especially rightwing ones can skew these numbers.

Perhaps the positivity opinions here are the minority, I don't know and there's no reliable way for anyone to know because some people act in bad faith and ruin it for everyone.
Of course review bombing can happen,but enough to lower it to 43 percent score? Where is your evidence that is what happened?

And why didn't it happen to SNW? If you want to claim "right wing conspiracy" , then why didn't it effect Voyager or DS9 scores? Voyager is sitting at 80 percent and DS9 has an 89 percent score on RT. I could go on and on with movies and shows with female or minority leads that have high scores, but I think the point has been made.
 
Of course review bombing can happen,but enough to lower it to 43 percent score?
Yes absolutely possible.
Where is your evidence that is what happened?
There was a huge wave of negativity for the show before it ever came out, an inordinate amount of discourse about how the show was terrible based on simply its premise.

For some it was because of their anti-woke snowflake rage, for others it was the gatekeeping notion that they alone get to define what it means to be star trek.
And why didn't it happen to SNW? If you want to claim "right wing conspiracy" then why didn't it effect Voyager or DS9 scores?
SNW was welcomed with open arms, it was a show that was wanted from the start so nobody started any kind of campaign against it. Does having a straight white man as the lead make a difference? Maybe. I wouldn't say it generates a positive score but it keeps away people who would unduly apply a negative one.
Voyager is sitting at 80 percent and DS9 has an 89 percent score on RT. I could go on and on with movies and shows with female or minority leads that have high scores,
Venerable older shows are typically immune to this, once they reach a classic status people tend not to judge them by today's standards. They also can't campaign for the cancellation of a show that ended decades ago so there's no motivation in it for them.
but I think the point has been made.
Your point still has more holes than the titanic but what do you want to get out of it? What is in it for you to tell a group of people who mostly all like a show that that show is bad?
 
Yes absolutely possible.
No its not.
There was a huge wave of negativity for the show before it ever came out, an inordinate amount of discourse about how the show was terrible based on simply its premise.
Which I'm glad to see is finally being acknowledged here. The premise for the show wasn't interesting and people made their feelings known. There's nothing wrong with that. The fact that so many voiced their displeasure should have been a red flag to the producers.

For some it was because of their anti-woke snowflake rage, for others it was the gatekeeping notion that they alone get to define what it means to be star trek.
And the other side doesn't try and define what Star Trek is either?

SNW was welcomed with open arms, it was a show that was wanted from the start so nobody started any kind of campaign against it.
Give the fans what they want and they will be happy? Imagine that. But if the show had sucked those numbers would not be sitting where they are now after three seasons.
Venerable older shows are typically immune to this, once they reach a classic status people tend not to judge them by today's standards. They also can't campaign for the cancellation of a show that ended decades ago so there's no motivation in it for them
B.S. If someone hates shows strickly for those reasons , they wouldn't hold back from old shows. If Legacy had been the next show , you know, the proposed female character led show in the new Enterprise that many REALLY wanted to see, the backlash would have been almost non existent. But instead they get an Academy show which would have been a tough sell no matter what race or gender was the lead.

Your point still has more holes than the titanic but what do you want to get out of it? What is in it for you to tell a group of people who mostly all like a show that that show is bad?
What kind of question is that? This is a forum, not an echo chamber. The title of the thread is reviews and I posted numbers having to deal with reviews. If you don't like seeing constructive criticism then stay off the internet.
 
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Yes it is.

Assuming everyone who votes in the polls on this site is a star trek fan, it shows Star Trek fans do like the show.
It shows that a small portion of hardcore Star Trek fans like the show, unless you believe the majority of the fans are still posting on a bbs and not on social media.

Im also pretty sure the producers were hoping for more than just the support of hardcore fans who watch anything with the Star Trek name attached to it.
 
Which I'm glad to see is finally being acknowledged here. The premise for the show wasn't interesting and people made their feelings known. There's nothing wrong with that. The fact that so many voiced their displeasure should have been a red flag to the producers.
And then what?

Perhaps they'll cancel it.
 
What kind of question is that? This is a forum, not an echo chamber. The title of the thread is reviews and I posted numbers having to deal with reviews. If you don't like seeing constructive criticism then stay off the internet.

A lot of the negative reviews seem to be negative reviews for negativities sake, not genuine reviews and certainly not constructive criticism.
 
One you avoided answering. Very telling.
I did answer your question. There is no motive . Im simply discussing reviews which for some reason got your knickers all in a twist and start claiming "conspiracy." A very typical tactic for someone living in a bubble
Telling people a show is bad with shoddy evidence is not constructive criticism. I don't know what you think that means.
:lol: :lol:

Imdb and Rottentomatoes.com shoddy evidence . Keep dreaming.
 
I did answer your question. There is no motive . Im simply discussing reviews which for some reason got your knickers all in a twist and start claiming "conspiracy." A very typical tactic for someone living in a bubble
You aren't discussing though, you're making declarations and shutting down any kind of rebuttal with laughing faces and the insistences that everyone else is wrong. That can't lead to a conversation.
 
You aren't discussing though, you're making declarations and shutting down any kind of rebuttal with laughing faces and the insistences that everyone else is wrong. That can't lead to a conversation.
Your rebuttal have been ridiculous (dismissing websites with huge audience just because the numbers arent going your way) hence the emoji. Turning the conversation into me and why Im posting reviews in a review thread is beyond ridiculous. Its clear you can't handle criticism of this show and conjuring up conspiracies to explain it all away looks pathetic.

But anyway, I think further discussion here is pointless. So good day to you.
 
Your rebuttal have been ridiculous (dismissing websites with huge audience just because the numbers arent going your way)
The same reason for why you can't cite wikipedia as an academic source.
hence the emoji. Turning the conversation into me and why Im posting reviews in a review thread is beyond ridiculous. Its clear you can't handle criticism and conjuring up conspiracies to explain it all away looks pathetic.

But anyway, I think further discussion here is pointless. So good day to you.
I look forward to the day you actually watch the show yourself with an open mind and form your own opinions. On that day I will enjoy comparing and contrasting with you.

May you stay warm and safe.
 
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