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Oh brother. Not this again. The size of the Enterprise has NEVER been stated on screen, ergo there is no canon to violate. The earliest references to its size (The Making of Star Trek) are also conflicting -- it's said to be 947' long, but at the same time the shuttle bay is described as being big enough to house multiple jet liners. Huh?

The Enterprise from In A Mirror Darkly was scaled as 400-450m, which matches what we see in Discovery.

It's easy enough to work out from the visuals, since we know the diameter of the bridge and the size of shuttles - it's about a thousand feet long give or take.
 
Oh brother. Not this again. The size of the Enterprise has NEVER been stated on screen, ergo there is no canon to violate. The earliest references to its size (The Making of Star Trek) are also conflicting -- it's said to be 947' long, but at the same time the shuttle bay is described as being big enough to house multiple jet liners. Huh?

The Enterprise from In A Mirror Darkly was scaled as 400-450m, which matches what we see in Discovery.
This is the song that never ends...
 
I had a dream, a number of years ago, that I was on a bi-level bridge. Cool that they had a bi-level bridge in mind....
 
I think you could accurately post that in every thread regarding news from Discovery or the Picard show, regardless of what it is.

Since we're moving back into Sequel Territory instead of Prequel Territory, I guess we can look to the reactions to The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi as our guide to what the reaction to Star Trek: Destiny will be.
 
Interesting information.
Thanks for sharing.
Sad they had to recast Airiam becuase of the actress' health. I hope the best for her.
 
Interesting.

To some of the posters, occasionally people talk. When ENT was running someone working on it provided me with gorgeous candid shots. Loved them, but wished DS9 had been in production - I'd have loved candid stuff.

Time will tell if what was said is true. It's nice when that happens, as it's fun to get a little insider stuff.

Sign me *still hanging on to my ENT pix.*
 
Oh brother. Not this again. The size of the Enterprise has NEVER been stated on screen, ergo there is no canon to violate. The earliest references to its size (The Making of Star Trek) are also conflicting -- it's said to be 947' long, but at the same time the shuttle bay is described as being big enough to house multiple jet liners. Huh?

The Enterprise from In A Mirror Darkly was scaled as 400-450m, which matches what we see in Discovery.
Yes but this time they've changed the shape of the ship as well. Different proportions. The old sizes cannot ever fit for the new one.

And they're not even trying. Even when John Eaves designed the ship to look more like TOS, the CG people were told to give it movie-style swept-back nacelles.

Yes you can argue that the sizes are broken to begin with, but arguing for the ships "really" being the same size makes any sense whatsoever in a universe they've deliberately reimagined visually.
 
Pretty much what I heard is don't hope or expect Picard to be captain of a federation starship at any point. It's based around an old mentally and physically damaged Picard going on a personal quest to correct something.

This is very much what I imagined. I think those hoping for a TNG reunion/relaunch or a sort of victory lap around 24th century continuity touchstones were always going to be disappointed.
I'm very much game for a Logan type Picard story. It has to be a better ending for him than Nemesis. And I'm a big fan of Trek taking new directions in genre and tone.
 
This is very much what I imagined. I think those hoping for a TNG reunion/relaunch or a sort of victory lap around 24th century continuity touchstones were always going to be disappointed.
I'm very much game for a Logan type Picard story. It has to be a better ending for him than Nemesis. And I'm a big fan of Trek taking new directions in genre and tone.

I just hope it will be a personal story, and that they don't feel the need to throw that stupid, never-dying "Fall of the Federation"-concept into the mix...
 
I just hope it will be a personal story, and that they don't feel the need to throw that stupid, never-dying "Fall of the Federation"-concept into the mix...
Oh definitely. Stakes set at a reasonable level, please.
 
I just hope it will be a personal story, and that they don't feel the need to throw that stupid, never-dying "Fall of the Federation"-concept into the mix...
I would be all for the Federation actually falling, though. They could make for an almighty allegory for what's going on in the US right now.
 
I would be all for the Federation actually falling, though. They could make for an almighty allegory for what's going on in the US right now.

Star Trek was literally built on avoiding this super-tired trope of "decadent humanity falling". That's the core foundation of the entire IP and it's unique selling point.

Imagine if other IP's try to retroactively include the one thing they were set out to avoid?
Imagine Game of Thrones, where suddenly in the last season everything is saved by the destined prince getting the throne and marring the princess and everything is sunshine and happyness. Imagine MARVEL suddenly deciging that no, superheroes should have no flaws at all and be perfect, never conflicting role-models all the time. Imagine Star Wars saying "nah, let's do away with all that fairy-tales and mythology-stuff, we want pure sci-fi now".

All of these would be equally jarring, and a gross mishandling of each property.
 
I would be all for the Federation actually falling, though. They could make for an almighty allegory for what's going on in the US right now.


Fuck allegory.

The Federation collapsing might, however, provide an opportunity to jettison all the "evolved humans" and utopian crap. That would be a plus.
 
I suspect the whole Vedraysh thing will be a spin-off universe of what WOULD have happened if Sec.31 continues to operate unchecked as the NKVD of Starfleet instead of the smaller unofficial group it becomes. The reset button will be hit. Discovery will wind up parked in a cloud for 1000 years but will make it back. I should bookmark that I wrote this.
 
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