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First five scripts of series eight leaked online

I don't think Terry Nation was a hack, I suspect he just didn't really have much passion for DW, or the Daleks. The BBC would buy just about anything he wrote about the Daleks, so he got lazy and would just crank out any old thing for a paycheck.

It wasn't until (if true), the script editors called him on it during the 4th Doctors era ("It's a terrific story Terry, but you've already sold it to us six times.") that he buckled down and put some effort into producing Genesis.

According to the special feature on the Destiny of the Daleks, it was Barry Letts who said that, but it was three times. Letts also suggested the concept and title of Genesis of the Daleks.

Mr Awe
 
I actually really, really liked Asylum up until the maaaaagic amnesia thing.

I liked and disliked the magic amnesia bit. I hated how it reset the Daleks (only for them to get rereset later), but I'll admit I got a bit of a shiver when all the Daleks were asking "Doctor who?".
By the time this episode aired I was sick of that joke, something which has been used way too much in the new series.
 
I actually really, really liked Asylum up until the maaaaagic amnesia thing.

I liked and disliked the magic amnesia bit. I hated how it reset the Daleks (only for them to get rereset later), but I'll admit I got a bit of a shiver when all the Daleks were asking "Doctor who?".
By the time this episode aired I was sick of that joke, something which has been used way too much in the new series.

Especially in Moffat episodes.
 
Complete load of drivel. A Moffat mystery which draws on yet another urban legend with a very weak link to the real world. Die harders will get a kick out of the fanwankery ending but it's just another boring Moffat era episode for me. I don't give a shit who Clara's shagging - we had enough of that with Amy - just get out there and explore the universe.
 
I don't think Terry Nation was a hack, I suspect he just didn't really have much passion for DW, or the Daleks. The BBC would buy just about anything he wrote about the Daleks, so he got lazy and would just crank out any old thing for a paycheck.

It wasn't until (if true), the script editors called him on it during the 4th Doctors era ("It's a terrific story Terry, but you've already sold it to us six times.") that he buckled down and put some effort into producing Genesis.

Oh, that wasn't meant as an insult towards Terry: if you are a hassled editor, a reliable hack is worth 10 troubled geniuses (Terrance Dicks cheerfully describes himself as a good hack: I can write anything and it'll be useable.). But you do occasionally have to say "No, try again." to them.
 
That's my problem with Moffet-Who. He seems to think the show is about the companion. It's not. Even RTD didn't do this. He included the companion as plot points (Bad Wolf), but Martha was just a companion traveling on adventures with the Doctor. Even Donna, though she was part of Doctor-Donna, was not the story each episode, or even told thru Donna. It was the Doctor and his companion traveling and getting into adventure. Now I hear
He still hasn't finish explaining IMPOSSIBLE GIRL.

Steve, Doctor Who is NOT about the companion. You only have 12 or 13 episodes per season/series to entertain us, don't waste them.
 
He still hasn't finish explaining IMPOSSIBLE GIRL.

Steve, Doctor Who is NOT about the companion. You only have 12 or 13 episodes per season/series to entertain us, don't waste them.

Maybe... but I feel Clara's more of a MacGuffin used to drive the narrative forward rather than the main focus of the new arc.
 
He still hasn't finish explaining IMPOSSIBLE GIRL.

Steve, Doctor Who is NOT about the companion. You only have 12 or 13 episodes per season/series to entertain us, don't waste them.

Maybe... but I feel Clara's more of a MacGuffin used to drive the narrative forward rather than the main focus of the new arc.

...does Clara dating some teacher bring back Gallifrey...?
 
Speaking of UK dating statistics.... do 3/4 of the white females in the UK only date black males? Just some data interpolation based on Doctor Who companions who represent the audience. :)
 
^That'll be quotas at play. [/cynic]

Seriously, though - the BBC got slated on things like EastEnders a few years ago because they didn't show enough multiculturality (is that even a word?) so they're not going to make the same mistake with Dr. Who. If they have an opportunity to show cross-culture interaction, they will.

(I should stress here that this is not a bad thing - I'm just pointing out that this is how the BBC operate.)
 
That's my problem with Moffet-Who. He seems to think the show is about the companion. It's not. Even RTD didn't do this. He included the companion as plot points (Bad Wolf), but Martha was just a companion traveling on adventures with the Doctor. Even Donna, though she was part of Doctor-Donna, was not the story each episode, or even told thru Donna. It was the Doctor and his companion traveling and getting into adventure. Now I hear
He still hasn't finish explaining IMPOSSIBLE GIRL.

Steve, Doctor Who is NOT about the companion. You only have 12 or 13 episodes per season/series to entertain us, don't waste them.

I dunno, the first two seasons seemed explicitly Rose's story (in fact Rose remained a constant companion, in spirit at least, even after she'd technically gone!) I think it's the same for Martha and Donna, particularly Martha given most of the finale revolves around her.

^That'll be quotas at play. [/cynic]

Seriously, though - the BBC got slated on things like EastEnders a few years ago because they didn't show enough multiculturality (is that even a word?) so they're not going to make the same mistake with Dr. Who. If they have an opportunity to show cross-culture interaction, they will.

(I should stress here that this is not a bad thing - I'm just pointing out that this is how the BBC operate.)

Actually the BBC have been slated very recently over the ethnic makeup of various shows, in particular East Enders was cited as not being representative of what the East End is actually like these days!

It's often raised as an issue of black actors, but really given the actual makeup of the British populace there probably needs to be more South Asian actors involved in shows. And there is a numbers thing going on here, 87% of the UK population was white as of 2011, now obviously it won't follow that 87% of actors are white but clearly you have a smaller pool of actors to draw upon if you're wanting to hire an actor from an ethnic background.
 
Mind you, it doesn't matter to me, I just noticed it.
Rose had Mickey Smith.
Donna had Lance Bennett then Shaun Temple (the guy she married in TEoT).
and now Clara's fellow teacher/love interest is Danny Pink.

For the other 25%, Amy had Rory (both the whitest white people ever :))
and Martha wound up with Mickey, but she isn't included in the percentages.
Had Martha actually had a white boyfriend, then I'd say it's just PC going overboard to say "hey look here! white and black can be together". Yeah we know that.
 
Mind you, it doesn't matter to me, I just noticed it.
Rose had Mickey Smith.
Donna had Lance Bennett then Shaun Temple (the guy she married in TEoT).
and now Clara's fellow teacher/love interest is Danny Pink.

For the other 25%, Amy had Rory (both the whitest white people ever :))
and Martha wound up with Mickey, but she isn't included in the percentages.
Had Martha actually had a white boyfriend, then I'd say it's just PC going overboard to say "hey look here! white and black can be together". Yeah we know that.

Martha had Tom Milligan I think for a little while after LOTTL
 
I dunno, the first two seasons seemed explicitly Rose's story (in fact Rose remained a constant companion, in spirit at least, even after she'd technically gone!) I think it's the same for Martha and Donna, particularly Martha given most of the finale revolves around her.

Similarly the first season of classic Who was very much focused on Ian and Barbara. Throughout the majority of Hartnells run, the show was very much evenly divided in it's focus.
 
Mind you, it doesn't matter to me, I just noticed it.
Rose had Mickey Smith.
Donna had Lance Bennett then Shaun Temple (the guy she married in TEoT).
and now Clara's fellow teacher/love interest is Danny Pink.

For the other 25%, Amy had Rory (both the whitest white people ever :))
and Martha wound up with Mickey, but she isn't included in the percentages.
Had Martha actually had a white boyfriend, then I'd say it's just PC going overboard to say "hey look here! white and black can be together". Yeah we know that.

Martha had Tom Milligan I think for a little while after LOTTL

Indeed, as of The Sontaran Stratagem they were engaged. I think an early draft script for part 1 of Torchwood Children of Earth actually specified that Martha married Tom Milligan, though on screen it's only said she got married, perhaps because RTD had decided at that point that she'd marry Mickey instead.
 
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