Finally watching season 3

[knightgrace]

There are some problems. Writing isn't quite up to stand expectations. Too many episodes are verging on being written by flakes.

I define 'flakes', as a set of people that don't really have a clue as to how to write. Or to live.

Their logic isn't there. It is one thing to have a comedy 'Star Trek', some of these scripts seem to be not written for adults in the room. But for people that aren't adults, yet. In other words the original series pilot episode 'The Cage' was written for (supposedly) brainy fifteen year old boys. The actual main series of the original series was written for more normal boys, this by comparison is written for "boys" at fifteen, but behave with a subnormal intelligence quotient.

The expectation is that the supposed intelligence quotient between 80 and 100 points versus the actual average intelligence quotient being between 90 and 110.

For example: the episode with the pirates/scavengers, that ship....shudder...

 

[Firebird]

In other words the original series pilot episode 'The Cage' was written for (supposedly) brainy fifteen year old boys. The actual main series of the original series was written for more normal boys, this by comparison is written for "boys" at fifteen, but behave with a subnormal intelligence quotient.

The expectation is that the supposed intelligence quotient between 80 and 100 points versus the actual average intelligence quotient being between 90 and 110.

What utter nonsense.

 

[Starflight]

As a fifteen year old boy I had an IQ in the high 500s and used to effortlessly watch and comprehend things made for 16 or even 17 year old boys.

 

[HotRod]

For example: the episode with the pirates/scavengers, that ship....shudder...

One of the best episodes of the entire series so far.

 

[ichab]

There are some problems. Writing isn't quite up to stand expectations. Too many episodes are verging on being written by flakes.

I define 'flakes', as a set of people that don't really have a clue as to how to write. Or to live.

Their logic isn't there. It is one thing to have a comedy 'Star Trek', some of these scripts seem to be not written for adults in the room. But for people that aren't adults, yet. In other words the original series pilot episode 'The Cage' was written for (supposedly) brainy fifteen year old boys. The actual main series of the original series was written for more normal boys, this by comparison is written for "boys" at fifteen, but behave with a subnormal intelligence quotient.

The expectation is that the supposed intelligence quotient between 80 and 100 points versus the actual average intelligence quotient being between 90 and 110.

For example: the episode with the pirates/scavengers, that ship....shudder...

S3 was certainly a huge step down in the writing department.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The writing going downhill in the third series is very true to classic Star Trek.

Though the final spin-off of an era getting much better in its final two years is also very Star Trek, so history could repeat.

 

[Therin of Andor]

There are some problems. Writing isn't quite up to stand expectations. Too many episodes are verging on being written by flakes.

I define 'flakes', as a set of people that don't really have a clue as to how to write. Or to live.

The problem with your theory is the way Star Trek writers' rooms work. Scripts are pitched and often turned into full scripts by the pitchers, then the writing staff deconstruct the episode and build it back up again, to give the required consistency of characterisations and subplots.

Any "flake" writing for Trek would have the script deconstructed the same way. And many of the people in the SNW writers' room have been there for each season.

 

[Tosk]

There was probably a gas leak in the building or something.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

There's a lot of good stuff in season 3 but it is a weaker season when viewed as a whole. 10 episodes isn't really enough to do isolated adventures with thin connective tissue and the finale wasn't a grand compilation that felt built to nor was it a big dramtic hook for next year. It was a season of side stories and while there are very enjoyable ones you don't want that to be all you get especially after a 2 year wait.

 

[Noname Given]

There's a lot of good stuff in season 3 but it is a weaker season when viewed as a whole. 10 episodes isn't really enough to do isolated adventures with thin connective tissue and the finale wasn't a grand compilation that felt built to nor was it a big dramtic hook for next year. It was a season of side stories and while there are very enjoyable ones you don't want that to be all you get especially after a 2 year wait.

When you look at the final episode of SNW season 3, I think it's clear that at the time they wrote it, they all thought season 3 would be SNW's last season, so they filled it with more callbacks than usual, did something they really wanted to do with one episode; and then worked to try and tie up some of the story threads they had set up to date.

If they had definitely known they would you get season 4, they might have done some stuff differently for season 3.

 

[Warp Core Breach]

Season 3 was perfectly fine.

 

[Turtletrekker]

In my opinion, season 3 only had two exceptional episodes and eight that were okay at best and nadir level stuff at worst.

 

[Set Harth]

There was probably a gas leak in the building or something.

I had nothing to do with it!

 

[knightgrace]

Okay. Finished season 3...

Yesterday, my phone bricked...

The last episode was very good. More to the point it was asking a great many questions.

The Captain is most likely the most experienced person onboard. Which follows - you don't want a newbie in command. (Star Trek 2009)...

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The Captain is most likely the most experienced person onboard. Which follows - you don't want a newbie in command. (Star Trek 2009)...

I'm curious if this is true now.

TOS: Kirk has probably been in the space less time than Scotty.
TNG: It's hard to say anyone's got more experience than Guinan.
DS9: Dax has way more experience than Sisko.
Voy: Tuvok has way more experience than Janeway.
Ent: Mayweather and T'Pol are both more experienced than Archer.
Disco: Jett Reno has more experience than Burnham.
Pic: Everyone has more experience than Rios.
LDS: Captain Freeman has lots of experience.
Pro: Dal has no experience.
SNW: Pike has nowhere near the experience of Pelia.
SFA: Ake has centuries of experience, but somehow far less than two of her teachers.

Basically, Captain Freeman is the best captain.

 

[fireproof78]

I want a newbie if they got a solid crew. A good leader trusts their crew.