Finally read DS9 Millennium trilogy (8 year old spoilers)

[RonG]

Re: Finally read DS9 Millennium trilogy (8 year old spoiler

Amen to that

though Trek novels published since Millennium are generally of higher quality than those published before (IMO), it still ranks as the Number One TrekLit Novel (series).

It's as if it set a higher standard in TrekLit )

 

[William Leisner]

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ClayinCA said:
I'm less concerned about whether or not a story is "invalidated" by something else than whether or not it's, y'know, a good story.

Off to the re-education camps with you...

 

[ClayinCA]

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Yeah, I know, I'm sorry...

 

[RonG]

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If somehow Millennium get "invalidated", it will join other great Trek novels of the past showcasing great stories that were contradicted by later work (TV, other novels, etc) like Federation and Dark Mirror , and to a degree Final Reflection, Strangers from the Sky, Final Frontier etc.

 

[phrog]

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It'll be too bad if it does. I'd be so much happier if instead it was solidified by the new trilogy. *shrug* I guess we'll see.

 

[RonG]

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of course it would. Speaking from personal experience, it's great when your favorite novel\story\plot is accepted as such and as "in-continuity" by orhter fans, writers etc. But even if (when) that is not the case, that still shouldn't (and personally - wouldn't)take anything from that work :thumbsup:.

That said, if having Millennium be (stay?) in-continuity means that the quality of later work will suffer for it, I'd rather it became "alternate". The fact that it's my favorite only means I want newer novel to try and out-do it, thus getting better work constantly

Know what I mean?

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

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Back in 2003, I was sophmore in highschool. For an English class I was taking we had to choose a book to read and then we had to read or act out a scene from the book. I chose to re-read the Millenium trillogy and was the only person in my class to actually act out a scene, as opposed to just reading it. I guess I was the only theatre kid in the class. I knocked 'em dead. : ) The scene was:

Spoiler: A Garek scene from the book trillogy

When Past-Garek met Future-Garek in the past. I had to abbreviate it a bit, and re-word a few things that so as not to confuse the audience as much. But I love that scene and it's still one of my favorite moments in TrekLit history. "Tell me, in the future, are we happy?" "Have we ever been?" Oooo. Gives me chills.

 

[RonG]

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just one of the many scenes in the trilogy which made me gasp, laugh or don my "Holy $#!^" face

 

[RonG]

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Reading the trilogy made me wonderwhat the Reeves-Stevenses would do with the Voyager cast in a Voyager novel.

Prior to Millennium , they wrote Federation (one of the best TNG\TOS books) and Prime Directive (one of the best TOS books). It's a shame they never got a hold of Voyager (pre-Relaunch, Shatnerverse, Titan etc.) - maybe we would've gotten that ONE kick-ass VGR novel\story...

 

[Therin of Andor]

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Well, they, with Shatner, did have fun with a Mirror version of Voyager.

 

[JD]

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RonG said:
Reading the trilogy made me wonderwhat the Reeves-Stevenses would do with the Voyager cast in a Voyager novel.

Prior to Millennium , they wrote Federation (one of the best TNG\TOS books) and Prime Directive (one of the best TOS books). It's a shame they never got a hold of Voyager (pre-Relaunch, Shatnerverse, Titan etc.) - maybe we would've gotten that ONE kick-ass VGR novel\story...

Have you read the String Theory trilogy? I know it's not the Reeves-Stevens, but it is a good epic Voyager trilogy (although I didn't think the third book was as good as the first two).

 

[RonG]

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Have you read the String Theory trilogy? I know it's not the Reeves-Stevens, but it is a good epic Voyager trilogy (although I didn't think the third book was as good as the first two).

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nope, I mostly stayed away from Voyager novels. Echoes , the numbered novel was really nice, and Mosaic was OK, but everything else I tried, from Pathways to the Relaunch was not my cup of tee...

I want to give it a chance, but I need that EPIC story to get me there

 

[Christopher]

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^^Oh, String Theory is pretty darn epic.

 

[Steve Roby]

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IMHO, String Theory crashes and burns in the third book. The trilogy has lots of interesting ideas, and some good explanations and resolutions of some odd things from the TV series, but the third book dissolved into a morass of unconvincing technobabble.

 

[Lindley]

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I recall liking Marooned.

 

[RonG]

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If we're taking this thread to the topic of truly EPIC Trek novels, I would like some recommendations from long time Trek readers - I'm talking about sweeping, larg-scale, "blockbuster" epics in the vein of (wait for it ) Millennium, Prime Directive, Federation etc.

Seems to me that big, sweeping sci-fi epics have not been common in Star Trek novels (but then again, I'm still playing catch up with my Trek reading )...

 

[Smiley]

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String Theory, Serpents Among the Ruins, and The Art of the Impossible all come to mind as great Trek epics.

 

[LightningStorm]

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Before Dishonor was pretty epic. Although I most definitely wouldn't call it "great."

 

[RonG]

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I read all TNG-R novels to date and I have to say I was not too impressed... I think the spirit of TNG is much embodied by Titan than by TNG itself, but that's for another thread.

As for the epic novels - I read the Lost Era series ( TAoTI and SAtR are some of my favorites) but that's not what I meant by epic.

I realize that the application (rather than definition) of "epic" is personal and subjective (especially when regarding works of literary fiction), but when I mean "epic Trek novel" I mean a story with the largest scope, highest stakes possible, end-of-the-world adventure, outstanding (sci-fi) concepts, "wow" moments, exciting (but true to established canon) heroes & original characters - basically Star Trek to the Nth level.

While many Trek novels (especially those published since 2000) are fantastic Trek (and sci-fi\adventure) works in their own right, most of the times the stories tend to focus on only one (or a few) of the aspects mentioned above, and stay in a "pre-established" scope. I also feel that being too mired in continuity (or continuity porn so to speak) can keep a story down to a certain level... still grealy enjoyable, but more concerned with "filling the gaps", telling "untold history" etc.

While many of the novels are honest-to-Q Trek classics, I personally feel that there's a lack of truly "epic" Trek stories
[exit: rant mode ]

I realize that many will disagree with my points and my criteria for "epic", but I wanted to try and explain what I think should be found in larger quantities in the Trek novels line (obviously, IMO).

 

[Smiley]

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Maybe Q-Squared would be to your liking. It fits all of the criteria you mentioned for an "epic" Trek novel.