Finally, Endgame makes sense... part of it anyway

[kipron]

I think it was also to make you think that they took the exit aperture that took them back to the Delta Quadrant

Pretty much.

I must admit, the logistics of it don't entirely make sense to me. I mean, why would the Borg knowingly swallow the ship and then keep heading towards the Alpha Quadrant?

From the perspective of the Borg, it would've made more sense to let the Sphere be engulfed by the approaching shockwave so that Voyager would be destroyed...but then maybe I'm better at the evil plans? I don't know...

 

[By-Product]

.... EF2 is set after Nemesis.

Really? When's that explained?

 

[Mrs Paris]

.... EF2 is set after Nemesis.

Really? When's that explained?

it's not explained realy in the game but Nemesis came out in 2002 and Elite Force 2 came out in 2003

 

[Akiraprise]

It's been awhile, but Endgame takes place in 2378. The game then skips ahead two years to 2380, which is after Nemesis. Plus most of the TNG regulars are gone: Riker and Troi on Titan, Beverly at Starfleet Medical. Picard mentions in game that Worf is on leave, which is why Tuvok is there.

 

[Mrs Paris]

well yeah, there's that too

 

[Picard Alpha]

Its key to note that "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force" was dropped from the title in the sequel game to simply "Star Trek: Elite Force II"; seeing as how the game was no longer going to be set completely in the Voyager universe. The game starts with Lt. Munro and team aboard the Borg vessel working to free Voyager from the sphere (events seen onscreen in End Game). After Voyager successfully returns to the Alpha Quadrant Elite Force is split up and dismantled. If memory serves right Starfleet no longer saw the need for a tactical assault team to exist in the Federation. However our old friend Jean-Luc decides he wants an assault team exclusively on his ship and who better than Lt. Munro who just happens to be teaching at the Academy. His old boss Tuvok also just happened to be onboard Enterprise filling in… So everything’s hunky dory in Post Nemesis-ville when they suddenly receive a distress call from the U.S.S. Dallas; and the rest is left to your imagination.

 

[Mrs Paris]

Its key to note that "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force" was dropped from the title in the sequel game to simply "Star Trek: Elite Force II"; seeing as how the game was no longer going to be set completely in the Voyager universe. The game starts with Lt. Munro and team aboard the Borg vessel working to free Voyager from the sphere (events seen onscreen in End Game). After Voyager successfully returns to the Alpha Quadrant Elite Force is split up and dismantled. If memory serves right Starfleet no longer saw the need for a tactical assault team to exist in the Federation. However our old friend Jean-Luc decides he wants an assault team exclusively on his ship and who better than Lt. Munro who just happens to be teaching at the Academy. His old boss Tuvok also just happened to be onboard Enterprise filling in… So everything’s hunky dory in Post Nemesis-ville when they suddenly receive a distress call from the U.S.S. Dallas; and the rest is left to your imagination.

I have a sudden urge to go home and install Elite Force on my laptop

 

[Triskelion]

I never, and I mean never, play video games. But I played the first Elite Force and just loved it. I loved the detective work of it more than the shooting. I got through the whole thing with trial and error, but I was very frustrated at the end. Even after quite a lot of attempts, I couldn't figure out how to defeat the guy at the end without cheating, so that was a bit of a letdown. Has anyone actually done that?
Would have been nice if there were a few ways to defeat that guy, either shooting or perhaps with engineering, clever environmental manipulation, or even superior technobabble!

 

[Akiraprise]

It's possible to beat him. I did it without cheating. Photon launcher is your friend.

There's actually some recent discussion on the game in Trek Gaming if you're interested.

 

[exodus]

I never, and I mean never, play video games. But I played the first Elite Force and just loved it. I loved the detective work of it more than the shooting. I got through the whole thing with trial and error, but I was very frustrated at the end. Even after quite a lot of attempts, I couldn't figure out how to defeat the guy at the end without cheating, so that was a bit of a letdown. Has anyone actually done that?
Would have been nice if there were a few ways to defeat that guy, either shooting or perhaps with engineering, clever environmental manipulation, or even superior technobabble!

The last part was the room with all the Borg and your former Borgified Commander, right?(I haven't played in yeeeears)

Yeah, I cheated my ass off on that too.
When they said the Borg are relentless, they weren't kidding!
They just wouldn't stop coming!!!


BTW, where do you find the Borg Queen?

 

[Triskelion]

I don't remember a queen?

I thought it was cool, if you hesitate to kill the borgified commander, he kills you! Brilliant.

But actually I was referring to the big creature who tossed you around with telepathy.

 

[exodus]

I don't remember a queen?

I thought it was cool, if you hesitate to kill the borgified commander, he kills you! Brilliant.

But actually I was referring to the big creature who tossed you around with telepathy.

The book says the Queen is in the game. She must only be in the "difficult" setting.


Hmmmm, it really must have been a long time for me because I don't remember the creature at all.

 

[Guartho]

The last part was the room with all the Borg and your former Borgified Commander, right?(I haven't played in yeeeears)

It's also possible to save your commander before he gets assimilated. In that case you remain in charge of the team for the rest of the game while he's laid-up in sick bay recovering.

 

[JanineSal]

One of the things that always bugged me about Endgame was that Adm Janeway decided to go back and muck with history conveniently at the end of the 7-year run and not at any other point like 10 years or 2 years.

Well... My wife has been watching Voyager for the first time. We're 6 episodes from the finale and she was grilling me about baby Paris. I said "All I'll say is, she aids someone who commits a serious crime." My wife thought this was a very strange thing to say about an infant. But, it did spark my idea for a reasonable explanation for Admiral Janeway's timing. I think Ensign Paris dictated it.

Admiral Janeway's obsession with getting her crew back earlier probably would've led her to do it earlier. She could have just as easily made the Caretaker send them back straight-away rather than wait for a Borg transwarp hub. But, she needed the help of Ensign Paris who was unwilling to risk causing herself to not be born. It was Ensign Paris who insisted that Janeway not interfere with anything before the time of her birth.

What exactly are you trying to say?

By the way, Tom Paris was an ensign between mid-Season 5 and late Season 6. He spent the rest of the season as a lieutenant junior grade.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

One of the things that always bugged me about Endgame was that Adm Janeway decided to go back and muck with history conveniently at the end of the 7-year run and not at any other point like 10 years or 2 years.

Well... My wife has been watching Voyager for the first time. We're 6 episodes from the finale and she was grilling me about baby Paris. I said "All I'll say is, she aids someone who commits a serious crime." My wife thought this was a very strange thing to say about an infant. But, it did spark my idea for a reasonable explanation for Admiral Janeway's timing. I think Ensign Paris dictated it.

Admiral Janeway's obsession with getting her crew back earlier probably would've led her to do it earlier. She could have just as easily made the Caretaker send them back straight-away rather than wait for a Borg transwarp hub. But, she needed the help of Ensign Paris who was unwilling to risk causing herself to not be born. It was Ensign Paris who insisted that Janeway not interfere with anything before the time of her birth.

I doubt that Ensign Paris even knew exactly what the Admiral's mission was. She was probably not told because that would have implicated her.

 

[exodus]

One of the things that always bugged me about Endgame was that Adm Janeway decided to go back and muck with history conveniently at the end of the 7-year run and not at any other point like 10 years or 2 years.

Well... My wife has been watching Voyager for the first time. We're 6 episodes from the finale and she was grilling me about baby Paris. I said "All I'll say is, she aids someone who commits a serious crime." My wife thought this was a very strange thing to say about an infant. But, it did spark my idea for a reasonable explanation for Admiral Janeway's timing. I think Ensign Paris dictated it.

Admiral Janeway's obsession with getting her crew back earlier probably would've led her to do it earlier. She could have just as easily made the Caretaker send them back straight-away rather than wait for a Borg transwarp hub. But, she needed the help of Ensign Paris who was unwilling to risk causing herself to not be born. It was Ensign Paris who insisted that Janeway not interfere with anything before the time of her birth.

What exactly are you trying to say?

By the way, Tom Paris was an ensign between mid-Season 5 and late Season 6. He spent the rest of the season as a lieutenant junior grade.

No not Tom, Miral Paris his daughter. In "Endgame" she's an Ensign.

Go back and re-read it, it should make sense now.