"Einstein was probably one of them."
Final sad Fates of TOS crew....
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Yeah. Generally they don't travel at full impulse for long presumably for this reason. We're not even sure how fast that is.
Full impulse is fine since that isn’t near light speed but ships do have the ability to push them further so that they do go closer to light speed. That isn’t advisable however because of the dilation effects.
First day of school, fellas!
Maybe it was the effects of all that faster than light travel, Phase?
JB
Maybe the effects of too much partying on the 'Prise. Dr. McCoy keep that Saurian Brandy flowin'!
They never say that X impulse would be Y speed, for any values for those.
The TNG Tech Manual mentions that doing more than 0.25 c on impulse would incite the wrath of Einstein and is generally avoided - but the Manual also speaks of high impulse operations around 0.9 c or so, so it's not a hard engineering limit or even a strict rule. And neither of those is tied to any specific impulse setting.
Indeed, impulse settings are likely to be throttle settings: run at 1/16 impulse for long enough, and you move just as fast as if you applied full impulse for a shorter time. But they never say that out loud, either. We just witness 1/4 impulse representing very different speeds and accelerations in different cases. Especially telling are the Spacedock departure scenes: in ST3:TSfS, it's a crawl, while ST6:TUC, it's out of the barrel of a cannon. Which is a very natural difference to have between a badly damaged ship and a fully functional one...
Timo Saloniemi
In ST:TUC why did the writers make Atzebur the head of the Klingon council when in TNG it was established that women were not allowed in Government? It's almost like they were saying to puh with that crap or whatever?
JB
JB
If I had to hazard a guess, it would be because she was acting as her father's proxy as his immediate family until a replacement was chosen. So she had no right of her own. They may have deliberately delayed electing a replacement who might have had different views on the peace process.
In terms of ageing characters, I think most ships would only travel at high Impulse for very limited time. Time dilation does occur at lower speeds but it is negligible so even after five years in space, most people might be only a few minutes younger unless they'd had to use high Impulse in an emergency for a sustained period .
True. But except for McCoy. The Fates of Kirk, Spock and Scotty seem a bit sad. Spock in an Alternate Reality far from home and Scotty out in deep space alone on a little shuttlecraft.
Klingons seem to tend toward revisionism in their history. Remember when they were selling romulans cruisers (TOS), and then they were sworn enemies (TNG)?
Aslo, there's about 60-70 years separating TUC with TNG - plenty of tiem for attitudes on whether women should be in Klingon government to have changed.
Actually, it's more strange that we saw him at all. But considering he wasn't part of Kirk's crew, there's no reason to ever see him again.
I hate that there's isn't even a good still of him on set. I really wanted to use it in my Star Trek Chronology. All that exists is screencaps of his profile at his communications station.
What's the problem? TUC takes place around 70 years before TNG.
We have always been at war with East Romulus.
"Selling of vehicles" and "sworn enemies" generally do go together...
...Although we never were told the Klingons would have sold anything. The Romulans just operated ships of Klingon design. Might be war loot. Might be copies built out of stolen Klingon blueprints. Might be fakes built exclusively to frame Klingons.
Speaking of Klingons, three of the not-established-as-not-surviving five speaking characters (Kor, Koloth, Kang, Mara, Korax) lived long, prospered, and went down fighting. Not too shabby. Of the two surviving speaking Romulans (Female Commander, Tal), nothing is canonically known.
Timo Saloniemi
...Although we never were told the Klingons would have sold anything. The Romulans just operated ships of Klingon design. Might be war loot. Might be copies built out of stolen Klingon blueprints. Might be fakes built exclusively to frame Klingons.
Speaking of Klingons, three of the not-established-as-not-surviving five speaking characters (Kor, Koloth, Kang, Mara, Korax) lived long, prospered, and went down fighting. Not too shabby. Of the two surviving speaking Romulans (Female Commander, Tal), nothing is canonically known.
Timo Saloniemi
This is overlooking the bigger continuity error/retcon IMO.
In "Sins of the Father" (TNG: 3.17) a couple of Klingon women were present and participated in Worf's discommendation ceremony in the Klingon High Council. And in "Reunion" (TNG: 4.7) Gowron attempted to bribe K'Ehleyr by offering her a seat on the High Council.
In "Redemption" (TNG: 4.26) - mere 19 episodes later - it was established that "women may not serve on the High Council".
The script for TUC was probably (?) written prior to "Redemption"'s anyway.
Oh, I don't know. Just because Bones hit Krell with a pig-iron flintlock barrel doesn't mean he killed him. He could still be out there, wanting revenge for that knot on his head.
Not listed anywhere as it remains an embarrassment to the service, the loss of Lt. M'Ress was tragic and quite avoidable.
While M'Ress performed some perfectly normal morning dental hygiene, a young and inexperienced security guard mistook the foaming toothpaste for a "rabid" froth and fatally phasered the Caitian in an act of confused "self defense".
Her family continues to legally fight for restitution against StarFleet.
While M'Ress performed some perfectly normal morning dental hygiene, a young and inexperienced security guard mistook the foaming toothpaste for a "rabid" froth and fatally phasered the Caitian in an act of confused "self defense".
Her family continues to legally fight for restitution against StarFleet.
I don't think Kirk's end is that sad. I think Kirk would've been more bummed to die really old and kinda useless. Instead, he got a hero's death and one more adventure. He had fun. And that's what matters.
