Fifth Season is Final Season

[NCC-73515]

It makes sense to have one show in each era. SNW took Disco's 22nd century spot, Academy will take its 32nd, something can take LDS's and PRO's spot in 24th/25th
Actually they could just make a live action combined version of LDS & PRO

 

[StarMan]

I dropped in and out of Lower Decks until it became unavailable in my region. I wanted to check out the latest season ...

It had its moments, but the Trek reference angle was never enough to hold my interest. Still, I understand the appeal to others.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It makes sense to have one show in each era. SNW took Disco's 22nd century spot, Academy will take its 32nd, something can take LDS's and PRO's spot in 24th/25th
Actually they could just make a live action combined version of LDS & PRO

23rd.
Leave your Star Trek Fan Club card at the desk.

 

[Sumire]

I am quite saddened to find this out. Both my beloved Trek animated shows gone too soon.

I will remain hopeful that this is not truly the end. Could there be a future where Lower Decks no longer describes our main characters, thus necessitating a new title? I hope so.

I adored the live action crossover but as a lover of animation, I hope Trek continues to have animated shows. Animation lends itself to a much wider array of guest stars too.

I eagerly look forward to the second season of Prodigy and the fifth season of Lower Decks. I will enjoy each episode to the utmost and treasure each beloved character more than ever. That way, if this truly is the end of an era in animated Trek, I’ll have sucked the marrow out of it, and if my hope that there is more to see from these setups is true? Then I get joy on top of joy.

 

[Tuskin38]

Well, at least she's only going to be causing problems in the stupid 32nd Century, won't have to worry about it effecting SNW.

Section 31 takes place in the early 24th based off some new casting info we got.

 

[fireproof78]

1. Being Space Hitler
2. Having a history of eating people (although admittedly that wasn't really shown on screen or treated as a big deal, but it happened).

Redemption is not possible? I thought this was about humanity evolving?

The only thing I could be wrong about is the time period, but I swear to god if they fucking sent her back to the normal star trek timeline I'll fucking lose my shit.

Well...I'll let you be ignorant.

its still a waste of money that should have been used on a better prject.

Such as?

 

[firehawk12]

Redemption is not possible? I thought this was about humanity evolving?

I have a feeling that if they knew they were going to franchise Yeoh into her own series and now movie, they probably wouldn't have written her to be so hilariously evil.

Like eating Saru for breakfast is kind of funny as a throwaway gag rather than an inherent character defining trait.

 

[Amasov]

Of course it is. I wonder what sentient species our "hero" will be eating in it I can't believe that they're making a Star Trek project where the "hero" is basically a female Space Hitler. Well, at least she's only going to be causing problems in the stupid 32nd Century, won't have to worry about it effecting SNW.

This isn't Reddit.

 

[Dukhat]

Given that season 5 is also the final season for Discovery; safe assumption that Strange New Worlds will end after five seasons?

I’m going to guess that SNW’s third season will be its last. And since SFA isn’t supposed to be happening until 2026, we’ll see if that’s even a thing once Skydance acquires Paramount Global.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I’m going to guess that SNW’s third season will be its last. And since SFA isn’t supposed to be happening until 2026, we’ll see if that’s even a thing once Skydance acquires Paramount Global.

Didn't it just get renewed for a fourth? I think it was announced at the same time as LD's final season.

 

[Amasov]

Didn't it just get renewed for a fourth? I think it was announced at the same time as LD's final season.

It did. Both announcements came at the same time.

 

[Dukhat]

Didn't it just get renewed for a fourth? I think it was announced at the same time as LD's final season.

If it did, great. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Nerys Myk]

If it did, great. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-renewed-lower-decks-ending-1235969332/

 

[The Wormhole]

As much as I love Lower Decks, I'm okay with this news. Nothing is permanent, everything ends at some point. Lower Decks has already provided four seasons of tier one entertainment, I have every bit of confidence the same will be true of the fifth as well. This show is easily among one of the top Trek shows for me, and I'm grateful it's existed and has provided me as much entertainment as it has. Besides, by modern standards, five seasons is a hell of a run.

 

[aquova]

The same people who trashed LD in S1 are now singing its praises in S5!

I'm one of those people. I really didn't like season 1 at the time (and even now I'm not crazy about it). I thought it was too goofy, too meta, too lacking in its own identity. I honestly dropped the show until the SNW crossover convinced me to give it another try. I've really come around to it, although I still understand people who don't like it. It definitely occupies a very different niche than the other shows.

Their grand strategy of making the season posters look like the films hasn't paid off. I thought they'd at least get to do Star Trek VI.

 

[Danja]

But that isn't the question. The question is at what point does Trek no longer make viable financial sense to renew. Not that its cost over the long term will grow to the point where a new show will be cheaper. Expense is just one half of the equation. The biggest factor is revenue.

Using Yellowstone as an example, Even if they didn't mess with its cast o where it was airing. That show generated enough revenue to keep producing for many more years (unless of course it just fell apart, it can happen). And still generate more revenue then most any other show they produce.

Now due to issue with Costner's scheduling, Sheridan moved to end the show. Cut its streaming contract with NBC (which Paramount has wanted from day one, just needed legal coverage to do so). rename, and get new lead. The show is going to continue (again unless its numbers just completely fall off. That show is expensive, even if they could have kept Costner and included cast and producers (key one has made got significant raises), and moved it to Paramount + that show would still have easily several years left to. Easily.

Nothing from Trek is near that level. Nor do the cost reach that level. But Trek is still expensive. And SNW is at least domestically the the third highest rated show that has aired on Paramount +. And does do better then Discovery to date or Picard to date.

So the financial reason that lead to Discovery being cancelled, doesn't mean that SNW will hit that threshold in the same number of years.

As for new show development while over the long term (if they survive, thats always an if), their initial cost will be more expensive then what a current season of Trek will costs. So there is always a gamble.

P+ has a cheaper new show in the pipeline (Starfleet Academy). That's all the reason P+ needs.

This is not the 1980's. The days of running a show into the ground are over.

 

[fireproof78]

I have a feeling that if they knew they were going to franchise Yeoh into her own series and now movie, they probably wouldn't have written her to be so hilariously evil.

Like eating Saru for breakfast is kind of funny as a throwaway gag rather than an inherent character defining trait.

And again, no longer defines her, as evidenced by "Terra Firma." So, even if one took that as a defining character trait (I didn't.) she has demonstrated the ability to change, to grow perhaps, and even...dare I say it...evolve.

Spock observes the Mirror Universe humans were the very flower of humanity, and as much as we would like to separate ourselves from our darker sides, there is still one present. If we are to move forward as humanity then ignoring our capacity to change is going forward blind.

 

[kirk55555]

Redemption is not possible? I thought this was about humanity evolving?

There is a limit to redemption. Being the psychotic leader of an evil Empire, and being directly responsible for untold death, reaches that to me. That's why I refer to her as Space Hitler, not because I think the character is specifically a Nazi but because she's a irredeemable evil dictator, in space.

 

[fireproof78]

There is a limit to redemption. Being the psychotic leader of an evil Empire, and being directly responsible for untold death, reaches that to me. That's why I refer to her as Space Hitler, not because I think the character is specifically a Nazi but because she's a irredeemable evil dictator, in space.

Except she knew no better. These values we so freely espoused were considered weakness and punished. Violence, rule of force, and might makes right, defined the Terrans.

“Man has no moral instinct. He is not born with moral sense. You were not born with it, I was not - and a puppy has none. We acquire moral sense, when we do, through training, experience, and hard sweat of the mind.” ― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

 

[kirk55555]

Except she knew no better. These values we so freely espoused were considered weakness and punished. Violence, rule of force, and might makes right, defined the Terrans.

“Man has no moral instinct. He is not born with moral sense. You were not born with it, I was not - and a puppy has none. We acquire moral sense, when we do, through training, experience, and hard sweat of the mind.” ― Robert A. Heinlein, Starship Troopers

A dog that kills someone is put down regardless of whether it "knows" what it did. Besides that, I don't think you need to "learn" that murder is wrong, thats some Zack Snyder logic (as seen in his "magnum opus" Man of Steel).

Also, I hope you just quoted Heinlein and his notably fascistic book ironically, although either way I guess that fits with Mirror Georgiou's character (she would also probably hate/not understand the movie, like a lot of a certain group on the internet have been doing recently).