After reading some discussion in other threads, I am curious how this poll will go and whether the DE will win by a large margin.
Favorite version of TMP?
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I'd say the Director's Edition is the best, but I have some issues with it:
The awesome, attention-grabbing RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT was replaced with someone's pager going off quietly.
The greatest scene of all, from the Extended Version, where William Shaner sits in the captain's chair with a moronic grin glued to his face as the headrest slowly rises into position behind him, is absent
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It's a shame they mucked up Shatner's space suit when filming and were thus forced to cut his egress from the Enterprise. Couldn't they have fixed the suit colours with CG?
There's no triangles of death/trench scene.
Although planet Vulcan looked a lot nicer, they got rid of Vulcan's sister planet, T'Rukh, and it's moons (which come up frequently in the old novels).
The awesome, attention-grabbing RED ALERT RED ALERT RED ALERT was replaced with someone's pager going off quietly.
The greatest scene of all, from the Extended Version, where William Shaner sits in the captain's chair with a moronic grin glued to his face as the headrest slowly rises into position behind him, is absent
.It's a shame they mucked up Shatner's space suit when filming and were thus forced to cut his egress from the Enterprise. Couldn't they have fixed the suit colours with CG?
There's no triangles of death/trench scene.
Although planet Vulcan looked a lot nicer, they got rid of Vulcan's sister planet, T'Rukh, and it's moons (which come up frequently in the old novels).
It's gotta be the director's edition, no contest. It's the only one with pacing that makes it watchable.
The Special Longer Version (Network Television Version) is the best, exept for the scenes with Kirk in the wrong space suit. I really wish for a DVD or BD release of that version!
TV Edition all the way. I was hoping the DE was going to be a cleanup of that version, and was sorely disappointed it wasn't.
I'm always surprised that there are so many fans of the theatrical version. I just watched it for the first time in years, and it's even worse when it comes to pacing than I remembered. The Director's Edition at least does it's best to fix those problems. Of course, it can't do anything to fix the problems of writing, acting, cinematography, or direction, but c'est la vie.
And when it comes to pacing, the SLV is even worse. All it does is sloppily add more fat to film, when the movie needs the reverse action, editorially.
And when it comes to pacing, the SLV is even worse. All it does is sloppily add more fat to film, when the movie needs the reverse action, editorially.
They added the footage that should've been in the movie in the first place. My regret was that they didn't cut out all the oohs and aahs as the crew is subjected to nearly endless VFX shots.
As I said way back when, I cannot believe they cut out Spock's tear for the theatrical cut!
As an experiment I re-edited the movie by just removing the reaction shots during the cloud and V-Ger flyover sequences. I only left reaction shots that also had dialog somewhere. I showed to a friend who had the same complaints that I see by most people and he loved it. He said it was a much different film.
Um, it's not the colors...it's the whole damned suit. When they scrapped the original spacewalk they also too the opportunity to design new suits with new helmets. You'd have to CGI the entire suit to make it match.
(What always struck me is that Kirk goes out after Spock without a thruster pack, when Chekov clearly tell him "a thruster suit is reported missing". How did he expect to follow Spock-O in the first place?)
It would be very interesting to see that version. When I saw the theatrical version again recently, one of the comments I made was that the Enterprise approach sequence was glorious--except when they cut back to Kirk and/or Scotty. 75% of those shots are unnecessary and take away from the sequence. The same is probably true of the sequences you mention.
Theatrical cut is the most complete, cohesive and polished version of the film. The so-called "Director's" edition is just a hatchet job with an extremely poor DVD transfer, slapdash editing and substandard CGI effects shots. It solves few problems that exist in the theatrical version and adds plenty of new problems of its own. Spock's tears scene was completely redundant and imparts all the same information that the Spock in sickbay scene did.
I am watching this scene right now, and you are so right.
I also just noticed something for the first time in probably hundreds of viewings. If you look at the porthole to the right of Kirk's shuttlepod as Scotty reverses in to dock it with the E, a female crewmember can be seen peeking out the window to check on Scotty's parking job. Made me jump
Shame the DE couldn't have been included as a second disc for the Blu Ray release
It's been too long since I saw the DE to choose, but that extended TV version would be my least favourite.
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