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The only Romulan we see in ST:V is supposedly part human, which is why her name is Caithlin Dar. They may have used that as an excuse.
Did the Vulcans have the V forehead as well? Can't say I remember that, only that the actors had ludicrous ill-fitting wigs which nearly covered their eyes!!! 
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..probably somethine like a "banana hammock"I'll bet he was wearing Daisy Dukes.
to hold his junk.
Wait a minute?? What about the often quoted "No navel" rule??? Has anyone else noticed this?
Even Spock had to comment.
The cabaret women from Rigel II duplicates at the end of "Shore leave" show their navels, though they have tiny objects inside them.
I once read that there was a "no navel" rule on Star Trek and so Roddenberry put in a female character with two navels in one of his projects from the 1970s. Maybe Genesis II (1973), The Questor Tapes (1974), Planet Earth (1974), or Spectre (1977).
But "Shore Leave" and "The Cloud Minders" seem to defy that alleged rule. Does anyone know more about it?
It seems that NBC Broadcast Standards no longer objected to navels by the 1967-68 season. We saw exposed female midriffs in "Mirror, Mirror" and Nancy Kovacks' bellybutton in "A Private Little War." And Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In, which debuted in January 1968, had women dancing in bikinis with navels galore.
As for G.R.'s claim about why he gave Mariette Hartley's character two navels in Genesis II, that's just more of The Gospel According to Roddenberry.
As for G.R.'s claim about why he gave Mariette Hartley's character two navels in Genesis II, that's just more of The Gospel According to Roddenberry.
She was? Where was that established?
The novelization, for starters. It wasn't a secret, so I didn't keep track of all mentions.
For my money, that explanation doesn't make a lot of sense.
Something the novelist made up, because they thought an explanation was needed or something from production materials?
Based on what little I remember from thirty year old BTS materials, it was intended as an explanation for why her name was Caithlin. Supposedly her mother was Irish.
Looked it up on MA. It was pretty much the author's idea. Typical overthinking.
Are you dissing the production of the movie and the Shat's direction there, ssosmcin? 
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Actually there is a difference between a biological Romulan and a political Romulan. A biological Romulan has to be a member of the Romulan subset of the Vulcanoid species, while a political Romulan has to be a citizen or subject or national of the Romulan Empire.
Just like in the Roman Empire a "Roman" could be:
One) someone living in the city of Rome, even though they moved there yesterday.
Two) someone whose ancestors were Romans far enough back in time for the purpose of a particular distinction being made between Romans and non Romans. In some discussions anyone born Roman would qualify as a Roman, in others only persons whose ancestors 100 years ago were Romans, in others only persons whose ancestors 200 years ago were Romans, etc., etc.
Three) someone who was a Roman provincial subject, but not a Roman citizen.
Four) someone who was a Roman citizen, whether his ancestors had been citizens for generations or he had been granted citizenship yesterday. In AD 211 Roman citizenship was granted to more or less all free adult male humans in the Roman Empire.
So it is possible that Caitlin Dar was a Romulan representative in the sense of being a Romulan citizen or subject representing the Romulan Empire, without being a biological Romulan. If the Romulan Empire rules anywhere near as many planets as the Federation, it should include a lot of planets with natives who look more like Earth humans than like Romulans. Thus there is no guarantee that Caitlin Dar was a biological Romulan.
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This makes as much sense as any other explanation. Cynthia Gouw was made up to look Vulcanoid without giving her ear appliances (they covered her ears with a headdress). Perhaps the same could be said of Caithlin Dar herself.
Are the Romulans known for appointing non-biological Romulans to political/military positions? The closest thing I can think of is Sela who was half Romulan.
We've never seen any in canonical sources. I'm not sure about the novels. As has been pointed out before, it doesn't make much sense for them to be a "star empire" if they don't actually rule over any planets with other species. But Trek likes to give us interstellar empires made up of only one variety of alien.
Based on what was clearly depicted, the only non-Romulans under the rule of the Romulan Empire were apparently the Remans, who were retconned into the picture out of thin air much later. Then they were nowhere to be seen in the very next Romulan appearance in the prime-timeline part of ST09. So apparently they decided to keep to themselves on Remus after all the hubbub with Shinzon.
Very late edit: There was that blond-haired human dude in the Romulan space navy in TNG.
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