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Fantastic Four: Grade, Review, Discuss, Sequels?...SPOILERS likely

Film grade

  • A: I'm Mister Fantastic!

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • B: Its clobbering time!

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • C: The adventures of Herbie

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • D: Flame off!

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • E: Doomed

    Votes: 7 14.9%
  • F: Please Fox just give the rights back to Marvel

    Votes: 30 63.8%

  • Total voters
    47
And just to put the whole Evil Studio vs Noble Director thing in perspective, it was Trank who wanted the villain to be a hacker called Victor Domashev, it was Studio mandated reshoots and ADR that turned him back into Victor Von Doom. (Now they still got the character completely wrong but at least they tried.)
 
And just to put the whole Evil Studio vs Noble Director thing in perspective, it was Trank who wanted the villain to be a hacker called Victor Domashev, it was Studio mandated reshoots and ADR that turned him back into Victor Von Doom. (Now they still got the character completely wrong but at least they tried.)
Just like what happened with Shredder in the last TMNT.
 
And just to put the whole Evil Studio vs Noble Director thing in perspective, it was Trank who wanted the villain to be a hacker called Victor Domashev, it was Studio mandated reshoots and ADR that turned him back into Victor Von Doom. (Now they still got the character completely wrong but at least they tried.)

On the flip side, I've seen a lot of reviews mock the name and they generally agree that the film is better in its more grounded first half (presumably less interfered with) than the generic action of the second half.

I'm not arguing that would've saved the film but just playing devil's advocate.
 
On the bright side, this debacle has inspired me to rewatch "the Incredibles" this weekend.
 
The beginning with the junk yard and trying to build the teleporter...

OMG!? That was tiny Ethan Hawke in Explorers? I thought my first impression of that boy, which was instant hate by the way, was from Reality Bites.

Doesn't any one think it odd that Homer Simpson (Dan Castellaneta.) can just randomly be in anything for close to scale, when he is arguably the greatest actor of the last 3 generations?
 
Drugs did wonders for The West Wing, and you could tell the instant that Drugs left the building.

The only reason I can see for the inclusion of Ben in the exploration team is that Ben and Reed were lovers. Going back to the 60s, there was no reason for the inclusion of Sue and Johnny as Astronauts other than a domino effect of "They'll be lost without me, so they might as well die with me."
 
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I was thisclose to giving it a pass as I watched because there were a few things I think they got right:

-Reed and Ben's friendship. I think that was pulled off nicely.

-The Baxter Building. See? It can actually look like it does in the comics instead of like a skyscraper with Hogwarts stuck on top.

-Nice little shout out to Central City.

So the F is for FREAKIN' DOOM! THE HELL???? I know we were warned, but I've never seen a movie get a character that wrong in my life!

So F! F all day long! F until somebody out there manages to film my favorite heroes right!
 
I saw the Ben/Reed (Breed?) love, but it didn't make sense, and it wasn't justified, unless he has an Igor fetish.

Ben had three lines as a human and 2 of them were about model cars.

For a second I thought Doom was going to bring a out a joint form his breast pocket when he asked everyone if they wanted to get wasted.

Is there a 15 year age gap between Reed and Sue?

I wonder why Trank ignored the love story between the two of them?

"Oh my god, oh my god, I can't believe I just lost my virginity to a woman in her 20s!"

"Reed, I'm 32."
 
Now that we have a spoiler thread and some people who've seen it, I'm most curious to know what they did with Doom in this film. Did they get him any more "right" than the Story films? Spoil me away, in a box if you feel the need.

Also, I saw something in a review that seemed to indicate that...
...Sue wasn't present for whatever gave the team their powers, and Doom was...what's up with that?

Yes! Yes! That was ####ed up!

I blinked and missed the hard rentry that flooded the command and control room with mutagen rays, but that was a ridiculously weird decision to leave her out of the exploratory mission.

"Yeah, let's not take Victor's exgirlfriend, or the woman I am having feelings for, who is the same person, who is more importantly an accomplished engineer and a founding member of this project, but instead lets booty call my friend from highschool who is still in high school to be our fourth because he's a really cool guy. Yeah, cool."
 
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